Do you adjust the allowance depending on the woman?

It’s partly about branding and partly about luck. Even if you’re young and have competed in beauty pageants, you won’t get anywhere if you’re a dead fish. Someone a little older, with slightly less attractive looks, but who also has a sexy side, might do better. If you want 100, then state 100 or more on the papa-katsu app when negotiating your allowance. You’ll probably have negotiations with papas fall through many times, lol. They may even leave you with some parting insults, but you need an ironclad mindset and keep trying until you find someone willing to pay 100. It’s like a gacha game: you might get lucky on the first try or after a few attempts, but you might also never get one for the rest of your life. There’s also a chance the offers will dry up, so it’s up to you how far you’re willing to go. You’re free to think, “I’m young and I’ve competed in beauty pageants,” but the papa is the one choosing, and the papa is the one who decides your value. If your offer of 100 keeps getting rejected, it may simply be that you’re not worth that much. It’s harsh, but you should calmly consider your value from the other person’s perspective. Your acquaintance’s 100 might look impressive, but you don’t even know if it’s true. Maybe he’s actually an incredibly creepy old man, and she set it at 100 because no one would deal with him otherwise, lol. Of course, there’s also a small chance she just hit the jackpot.

As Mr. Loser said, I’m able to date most women with 5, so I have no intention of raising it to 6 or more for now. By the way, you mentioned beauty pageant contestants and the like, but I’ve dated women like that for 5 as well. That said, if you want 10, you should ask for 10 during the very first negotiation. If she’s a woman who receives a lot of offers, your chances of success won’t be particularly high—but I’m sure there are men who would agree to it. Personally, I’d just move on. Also, if a man looks displeased at 10, you shouldn’t follow up with something like, “Then how about 8?” An arrangement with that kind of man will ultimately end after just one meeting. Another option is to register with PATΟLO and set your desired allowance at 10. If you still receive offers, she’s unquestionably a high-caliber woman.

Let me teach you a special magic phrase. Whisper this into your papa’s ear—just softly enough that he can barely hear you, while gently blowing on his ear: “Make the allowance ¥XX, and then I’ll let you finish inside without protection.”

If someone wanted you to sell a ¥150,000 TV for ¥50,000 when you were hoping to sell it for ¥100,000, what would you do? Even with the exact same product, I think someone who can convey its appeal would be able to sell it for ¥100,000, while someone who can’t communicate its value would end up selling the same TV for ¥50,000. Ultimately, if during dinner he feels that going to a hotel with this woman would be enjoyable—or even that the conversation is great without going to a hotel—then when it comes time to go to a hotel, even if he asks, “How about ¥50,000?” she can say, “Could we do ¥100,000?” If he enjoys the conversation or thinks spending time with her at a hotel would be fun, I think he’ll pay ¥100,000. I don’t often hear women refer to someone as a “senior” in this context. (Usually, they seem to be friends, even if they’re older or more experienced.) Even if you think you have the looks and youth on your side, that senior woman may simply seem more attractive to him. In the end, things like conversation and mannerisms also make a difference. There’s also a fundamental issue: a man who offers ¥50,000 is only offering that amount because he values the woman at ¥50,000. If you turn down anyone who doesn’t value you at ¥100,000 or more, you’ll naturally end up receiving ¥100,000 or more. It really can be that simple. (Some men vary the allowance depending on the woman, because they believe a woman’s value should be determined individually. You could use the amount such men offer as a guide to deciding whether you need to further improve your appeal. However, since you can’t tell which men think that way, it’s a difficult judgment to make.)

I don’t change my allowance depending on the person. It has happened once in the past, but I have no intention of changing it going forward. Even if I meet someone who wants a higher allowance than I had expected, I tell them my set amount. If that doesn’t work for them, I simply say goodbye. So even if I met you, I wouldn’t offer 100,000 yen. That said, I’m sure there are men who offer 100,000 yen on a pay-per-meeting basis. If you’re young and confident, why not write on Patro that you’re offering an allowance of 100,000 yen or more and approach various people? Why not start by taking action? I hope you find a good match! Hope this helps.

I haven’t basically changed anything, though it may just be coincidence. Recently, a few women have been requesting different amounts from what they previously asked for. *That said, the difference is only around ±10,000–20,000 yen.* With dating clubs, the man generally arranges the meeting, so I don’t think being good at finding an ideal supporter is really much of a factor. If you’re hoping for an allowance of 100,000 yen, I think you’ll simply have to tell him that when the two of you first discuss the terms. You could try negotiating an increase after meeting several times and establishing a fixed allowance, but unless you’re okay with the relationship ending, I wouldn’t recommend it. Alternatively, you could set your desired allowance on PATOLO at 100,000 yen or more and approach people by message.

I’m a respondent who gets an allowance of 100,000 yen or more. > Are you just good at finding good papas? I just got lucky with the papa lottery. It has nothing to do with whether you’re above or below the person asking the question. > I want 100,000 yen too. What should I say to get that amount? I think you should say, “I’d like an allowance of 100,000 yen,” the first time you have an adult relationship. If you get lucky with the papa lottery, you might find a papa who gives you 100,000 yen right away. But continuing the arrangement will probably be difficult. From a papa’s perspective, an allowance of 100,000 yen means you have to put in the equivalent of someone worth around 150,000 yen in an adult relationship for him to continue. That’s because once the allowance goes above 100,000 yen, you’re competing with the top tier of his monthly arrangements. So even if you successfully negotiate 100,000 yen once and become intimate, it’s hard to imagine him continuing unless you put in a lot of effort. He’ll simply use the experience to reaffirm that his regular monthly partners are far better, and that will be the end of it. I’m meeting another new woman this month who wants an allowance of 100,000 yen. I’d bet money it’ll end after one meeting. That said, I’ve also looked into the world of 50,000-yen allowances, but going cheaper doesn’t necessarily mean the arrangement will continue. To put it bluntly, I end up thinking, “She’s just a 50,000-yen woman,” have one adult relationship, and call it quits. Incidentally, most of the respondents here offer an allowance of 50,000 yen. The reason they won’t even offer 60,000 yen is that they already have several regular partners who treat them exceptionally well for 50,000 yen. So they’ll never go up to 60,000 yen. Changing the subject, there are PJ women who are, in a good sense, completely unrelated to the 100,000-yen allowance range: A-type PJs. Even if we spend the whole day together, we only give them around 50,000 yen, so from the papa’s perspective, they offer the best value. On the other hand, spending the day with a B-type or higher woman would cost an outrageous amount, so A-types and B-types or higher aren’t competing for the same offers in the first place. If you’re confident about your looks, you could temporarily try being an A-type and see if you can find a papa who only makes offers to A-types.

I adjust the amount depending on the person—or rather, the type of date. I also add a bonus to the allowance when she’s enthusiastic about an adult relationship (intimate). This is just my personal impression, but women who are especially attractive can earn well even without an adult relationship, so they’re often less enthusiastic about it. Even if they agree to one, it can feel very businesslike, or they may try to finish quickly. In those cases, I don’t add anything extra to the allowance, so it ends up being relatively low.

I haven’t changed my allowance. I don’t think the allowance is determined solely by youth or appearance, let alone something that changes just because you say something. If you tell a man you want 10 when he first asks about your desired allowance, then from the next time onward, you can simply avoid meeting anyone who won’t give you 10.