Does anyone here use PATORO?

I agree that PATOLO doesn’t seem to be run very well. The concept itself sounds promising: combining the quality assurance that comes with being a club member with the convenience of an app, such as allowing women to approach men and enabling them to exchange messages beforehand. In practice, though, it seems to have deteriorated into a matching site for women who aren’t popular at the club and men who like being able to make offers more cheaply than through the club. I’ve met about three women through it, but none were people I felt I wanted to continue seeing. Maybe it was just bad luck. We didn’t exchange that many messages, but I personally find it convenient that you can discuss the location directly with your date when arranging a meeting. With offers through the club, having to communicate through the staff inevitably takes extra time, which can be a drawback. Also, as Mac pointed out, it’s a mystery why they chose “PATOLO” instead of “PATORO,” even though it comes from “patron.” And the fact that everyone keeps posting it as a typo seems like proof that the branding hasn’t been very successful.

I’m interested in PATOLO, so I always keep an eye on it. Maezawa has been heavily criticized, but the staff member I spoke with seemed to be making an effort, such as running campaigns to show male users how to use the service. Beforehand, I only asked about the allowance and a few questions I personally had. After that, we discussed the date location and restaurant, and I made just one offer. Unfortunately, she suddenly got her period on the day of the date and canceled at the last minute, so we never actually met… If you’re a male member of Universe Club, I imagine many people use it as an alternative to letter dates.

Are you entering your desired allowance amount? Rather than trying to get to know you, I suspect most papas are using the chat to see how low they can negotiate the allowance. I doubt many of them are just bored and looking to enjoy a conversation. Clearly state your minimum desired allowance, turn down anything below that in messages, and block anyone who keeps pestering you. If that feels like too much trouble and you’re okay with getting fewer offers, you might as well quit Pato and just use an agency instead.

Searching all questions from the past two years, “PATORO” brings up five results, while “PATOLO” brings up 31. They might be the same person, but I imagine there’s also a certain percentage of people who simply misspell it. Incidentally, searching “PATORO” brings up a security robot and a cigar brand. “PATOLO” doesn’t bring up anything. I assumed “Patoro” came from “patron,” but I just looked it up and the word is actually spelled “patron” in English. So why is it PATOLO? I’ve met three women through Patoro. They were all in their early twenties and belonged to Universal, but two tested positive for STIs. The third is still being tested, though I have a feeling she’ll be positive too. They’re not bad girls, so I plan to see them again once they’ve recovered. One of them was fine vaginally but tested positive for gonorrhea in her throat. She used a condom during penetration, but apparently there had been some rough, deep-throat oral sex. The other was fine in her throat but had mycoplasma vaginally. Things seem pretty bad lately, and not just on Patoro. This wasn’t happening a few years ago, but it feels like fewer girls are going to gynecologists. Most of them say it’s their first time getting tested for STIs. In my experience, you won’t catch anything if you use condoms and avoid unprotected oral sex and kissing. I’m convinced of that from personal experience. As I’ve written before, girls around 20 seem to be catching these things from their boyfriends, one-night stands, or casual partners—not from their papas. I’m thinking of educating them properly and making use of them as “recycled” girls. Someone who’s been through something like that once will probably be more careful in the future.

I was registered without even realizing it. I didn’t really understand how to use it, so I left it alone, but I received points from someone outside of Universe and used the service twice. The women I made offers to were cooperative, and I was able to arrange dates after just a few exchanges. That said, I understand the questioner’s concerns. The messages are apparently reviewed in some way—by AI, perhaps—but there doesn’t seem to be any clear limit on the number of exchanges, and I imagine some people use it as their main platform. As Maezawa-san points out, I can see how things could descend into chaos. More than that, what I find problematic is that some female members state their allowance amounts outright, and men can also ask about the price. I’m no expert in the law, but doesn’t this potentially violate the Anti-Prostitution Law? I don’t think I’ll be using it again.

On PATOLO, just ignore men who drag out the messaging without getting anywhere. If he doesn’t ask you out within about three exchanges, move on.

PATOLO has almost completely lost the benefits of registering with a dating club and is gradually becoming just as troublesome to use as ordinary dating apps and sites. From what I can see, more and more of the men on there offer allowances that are just as low as those on dating sites, so it seems there are hardly any financial benefits left either. Many men have moved from Universe Club to PATOLO, but my impression is that PATOLO is now mostly being used by men who offer low allowances. Because of that, I think women should politely decline if they’re encouraged to register with PATOLO at the same time when they go for an interview at Universe Club. A gentle refusal shouldn’t affect whether you pass or fail the interview. (If you refuse too strongly, however, they may think there’s a serious problem and you could potentially fail the Universe interview itself.) That said, there are women who didn’t receive any offers through Universe but did receive offers through PATOLO. So if you think you’re right on the borderline, simultaneous registration with PATOLO might be worth considering. But if the allowance is the same as on dating sites, dating sites will bring you messages from far more men, so I wonder whether there’s really any point in registering with PATOLO. Even when women reply to messages from men, it often doesn’t lead to an offer, so it just creates extra work. And when a man sends a message but the woman doesn’t reply, having staff message her to “please respond” feels like completely unnecessary interference. There are also many malicious men who decide on a date, time, and location with a woman, then never actually make an offer. Women report that they cleared their schedules for these men only to be treated terribly. Since PATOLO is more like an app, these men are basically left alone, leaving the women as the only ones who end up having a bad experience. Some men verbally abuse women. Some make promises in chat but never actually go on the date (since they never make an offer, there’s no penalty). Some ask strange questions simply because they want to enjoy casual conversation. Others send women nude photos of other women. There are an enormous number of reports from women, and PATOLO is in terrible shape. It’s chaos. My advice to women is this: If you’re already registered with PATOLO, it may be best to change your settings so that you only accept offers arranged through staff. It should be easy to change. If you’re not sure how, ask the Universe staff and they should be able to tell you. That way, you don’t have to reply to men in chat, and you can limit the process to what a dating club is supposed to offer: arranging dates through staff. Of course, if you actually enjoy the pointless back-and-forth chatting you get on dating sites, feel free to ignore this advice. P.S. I can’t imagine that many different people would keep misspelling it as “PATORO,” so I suspect this is the same person who posted the previous question. People really don’t let go of their assumptions easily.

I don’t use it. If it’s stressing you out, I think you should stop using it.