Among the papas here, does anyone significantly adjust the allowance based on the woman’s level?
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I’d also like to know what goes through a papa’s mind when upgrading someone from a pay-per-meeting arrangement to a monthly arrangement.
Please don’t give me the boring, thoughtless “it depends on the person” answer.
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What does “a woman’s level” really mean?
Since I make offers based on profiles, looks inevitably play a major role at the initial stage. But after actually meeting, sometimes things develop into an ongoing arrangement, while other times it ends because I feel we’re just not quite a match.
When I continue seeing someone, I basically don’t change her allowance. If there’s a special circumstance—like taking a graduation trip or going back home—I may occasionally give her some extra spending money.
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> Are there any women here who receive significantly different allowances depending on their level?
Yes, I give a certain woman twice the usual amount. However, it’s not based on her “level”; I adjust it according to what she wants. That said, I do wonder how many papas (male supporters) would be willing to pay someone twice their usual allowance simply because she asks for it—especially someone who posts questions in the way you do.
> I’d also like to know how a papa feels when upgrading someone from a pay-per-meeting arrangement to a monthly arrangement.
I don’t do monthly arrangements, so I wouldn’t know.
> I don’t want boring, intellectually lazy answers like “it depends on the person.”
If you weren’t intellectually lazy yourself, you could easily have anticipated the comeback: “That’s an intellectually lazy question.” Why not explain your intent and what kind of answer you’re expecting when you post? What are you planning to do with the knowledge that respondents adjust the allowance depending on the person?
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My papa switched me from pay-per-meeting to a monthly arrangement during the state of emergency declared amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
There were various factors, but after having lots of casual phone conversations, I think he realized that I was much more frugal than the average woman—if anything, I was too thrifty—and thought, “I want to help this girl.”
A lot of papas who are business owners don’t like seeing their money wasted.
If you can show that the allowance is genuinely being put to good use—not spent on pointless beauty treatments or cosmetic surgery—I think many will effectively increase it, whether you’re on a monthly arrangement or a pay-per-meeting basis.
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For example, even when it comes to restaurants, the amount spent can differ by tenfold—or sometimes even more—depending on the woman.
The reason is that, just as going out to play sports, golf, see a movie, sing karaoke, or explore different foods is much more enjoyable with someone who genuinely likes those things and usually pays for them herself, time flies when you’re together having fun.
A woman who’s genuinely interested in food will regularly visit different restaurants on her own and know a lot about them. She may even take you to places you wouldn’t normally go, giving you plenty of new discoveries. You can savor the food instead of simply saying everything tastes good, learn something along the way, and enjoy the experience in various ways.
By contrast, the overwhelming majority of women are happy with any kind of meal and simply want to visit restaurants they normally couldn’t afford. So, as long as you occasionally go somewhere nice and the conversation flows, you can have a pleasant time. Going to a restaurant serving the woman’s favorite food or somewhere she wants to visit also means you don’t have to feel as much pressure—and sometimes you might just grab something light at a convenience store.
There may not be a huge difference in the allowance, but when you look at things overall, I do feel that the difference in how much you favor someone shows up in various ways.
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This isn’t an RPG, so I’m not sure how to determine a woman’s “level.”
If we use a seven-point scale—6: really want to meet, 5: want to meet, 4: would rather meet, 3: neither, 2: would rather not meet, 1: don’t want to meet, 0: absolutely don’t want to meet—would the person on the far left be Level 6 and “absolutely don’t want to meet” be Level 0?
If that’s the case, I wouldn’t even meet someone a second time if she were below Level 5—anyone other than Level 6, basically. So for me, the idea of setting the allowance according to a woman’s level doesn’t really apply in the first place.
Even a very open-minded man probably wouldn’t meet someone unless she were around Level 6 (“really want to meet”) or Level 5 (“want to meet”). If so, there are only Levels 6 and 5 to consider, so I question whether it makes sense to discuss allowances based on level.
In my case, I don’t negotiate the allowance—I simply pay whatever amount the woman asks for. So when deciding whether I really want to meet her, a major factor is whether I still want to meet her badly enough to pay that allowance.
They say pricing is the foundation of business. You might sell an express pass to wealthy customers, an annual pass to die-hard fans, and a regular ticket to occasional visitors. To make the most efficient use of your limited time, you may need to sell it in various ways.
For women to fully monetize their time, they may need to set different terms for different men and sell their time at the highest price possible.
For men who want some kind of commitment on a monthly basis, there could be a monthly fee, while wealthy men might be offered longer trips that require more of their time.
I don’t think there’s any system where you get “promoted” simply by switching from pay-per-meeting to a monthly arrangement.
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I don’t change the allowance based on someone’s class or preferences. There are times when I’ll add a little extra to that day’s allowance due to particular circumstances.
*More precisely, it only ends up that way because everyone gives me the same amount when I ask what allowance they’re looking for.*
From a papa’s perspective, maybe you want something to continue long-term or hope to meet consistently every month?
Monthly arrangements have both advantages and disadvantages, so keep in mind that they aren’t necessarily all positive.
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I feel like the question itself reflects a refusal to think things through.
Whether you adjust it based on the woman’s level or pay the same amount, I don’t think it affects the allowance you receive.
I also question whether changing from a pay-per-meeting arrangement to a monthly arrangement should really be considered a “promotion.”
If you think knowing their state of mind will allow you to plan your approach, that in itself is a refusal to think. Adapting your response to the individual is basic common sense.
Why would you assume you can treat everyone the same when people are so different? If you really think that will work, you’re underestimating men far too much.
The basics differ from person to person. Of course, there are techniques that work for almost anyone to some extent, but those already exist in the world as general etiquette and conversation skills—you don’t need to ask about them here.
If those basics aren’t working, I think you should look more specifically at where things went wrong and identify what you can improve from there.
That said, I’m surprised by the simplistic idea of trying to conduct market research on the question-box respondents so casually.
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Of course, a natural difference develops over time. It’s less about the difference in amount and more about how long the arrangement has continued.
It’s definitely not based on looks. The difference comes from whether she shows genuine interest in me and whether we enjoy spending time together.
Once things have continued for about six months, I’ll switch to a monthly arrangement if we live fairly close and it seems likely to continue for a while. If I enjoy communicating with her and get the feeling that she probably doesn’t dislike me, I’ll move to monthly payments.
After about two years, it feels like things aren’t going to end, and even if the arrangement did end, we’d remain friends for life. So I’ve sometimes made lump-sum payments.
I don’t think anyone can keep this going for years if they’re doing it reluctantly. If she’s reluctant, either she isn’t suited to papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), or the man is unpleasant and she should consider ending things with him.
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