Tips Nov 8, 2023 01:52

It’s about a Christmas present.

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My papa asked me to choose something costing no more than ¥150,000, so I gave him two options: something priced at ¥70,000 and something priced at ¥20,000. Of course, I’m grateful just to receive anything. I chose one thing I’d genuinely be happy to receive and one everyday item I regularly use. Both are within the price limit. We probably won’t go shopping together, and it seems I’ll receive only one of the two. Should I have let myself ask for more? I feel uncomfortable asking for something at the full amount because I’d feel burdened by having to give something back in return. I also included the ¥20,000 option because I thought it would be easier for him to give without making either of us feel awkward. From a man’s perspective, would he feel like he got off cheaply in this situation? Would you choose the more expensive ¥70,000 option for her? I could ask him directly, but it seems the surprise of which one he bought will be saved for the day itself. Most papas don’t give presents at all, and they tend to avoid bringing up the subject, so I’m genuinely grateful just to receive one. On the other hand, a woman told me—somewhat spitefully—that compared with men who give women luxury gifts worth millions of yen, this papa might have several women and ¥150,000 may be his limit per person, so he’d probably be happy if she asked for something inexpensive. I feel like I’m testing how he feels about me. If it’s the more expensive one, I’ll think, “As expected of him.” If it’s the cheaper one, I’ll figure that although he spreads his money among other women too, having other women around makes things easier for him emotionally. The easiest arrangement would be with a generous papa who has lots of other women and doesn’t message me very often. But from his perspective, I’m sure the reality isn’t that simple—he’d probably prefer someone who doesn’t cost him much extra and who treats him like her primary boyfriend or papa.
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Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
For the next couple of months, I suppose we’ll keep seeing quite a few questions about Christmas presents... Anyway, the questioner says that if it’s on the expensive side, they’d think, “Wow, as expected.” But I found myself thinking, “I wouldn’t want to spend ¥50,000 just to get that one comment from her,” lol. This is just my opinion, but I think the better answers are probably the following two options—and what the questioner is doing is the one thing you really shouldn’t do. If I were a woman doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I’d go with option ②. ① Simply specify a present worth around ¥150,000. ② “No, you already do more than enough for me on a regular basis, so you really don’t need to get me a Christmas present. Just knowing you feel that way makes me happy.” → This may prompt him to voluntarily give you ¥150,000 in cash as a Christmas present.
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
Including the ¥20,000 item as one of the two options feels a little unfair. As a man, I want her to tell me what she wants most—not because of the price, but because I want her to be happy. If the ¥20,000 item is really what she wants, there’s no reason she would name both a ¥70,000 item and a ¥20,000 one. From the man’s perspective, the only choices are either to pick the ¥70,000 item or give her both the ¥70,000 and ¥20,000 gifts. If you’re going to suggest two items, I think it would be better to choose two that are closer in price and a little more expensive, or two items totaling around ¥150,000. If it would make her happy, I wouldn’t mind going over ¥150,000. There’s another reason why the ¥20,000 item feels like an awkward choice. If you think of it as the cost of a course meal for two at a regular date, it’s something I could easily buy for her anyway. When I’m specifically trying to choose a special gift that will make her happy, being told about something she could casually buy while browsing around town doesn’t really give it that Christmas feeling.
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関西在住で多趣味です。 最近、筋トレにて、体重は減っていないのに、ウエストは減りまくりで、筋肉の増量と体脂肪の減量との両立を実現しております。 スタンダードクラス、ゴールドクラスで磨くと光りそうな方にオファーすることが多いです。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member, Nichigetsu Arata. If I had a budget of ¥150,000 and a woman made me a similar proposal, I might give her one ¥70,000 item and four practical, everyday items costing ¥20,000 each. That said, what an utterly unexciting game you’re playing. You present two choices, but in reality, they’re not equal in value at all: ¥70,000 is the right answer, while ¥20,000 is unacceptable. You’re thinking exactly like those obnoxious men who give gifts worth hundreds of thousands—or even millions—of yen. In fact, it seems you’re asking one of them for advice. If money is the only measure of value and it clearly determines the hierarchy, then for the sake of the men involved, I think you should quickly cut off anyone who can only prepare a paltry ¥150,000 budget. Wouldn’t it be better to stick strictly to a standard of allowance: 10 points, appearance and personality: 0 points?
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