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Oct 5, 2023 21:55
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We get along well, but he sometimes sends me group photos that include a daughter who’s slightly younger than me, as well as glamorous photos of himself with his family.
Seeing girls my age who live in a completely different environment makes me compare myself to them, which is painful. I also start thinking about his family, feel guilty, and end up feeling even more disgusted with myself for doing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). It honestly makes me feel like I’m going to throw up.
I’m in a situation where I have to continue papa-katsu until I earn my qualifications and find a job.
I’m thinking of telling him that receiving family photos is painful for me so that we can continue getting along, but first I’d like to know whether it’s normal to feel this way or if there’s something wrong with me. I want to hear other people’s opinions before deciding whether to say anything.
I haven’t told anyone around me that I do papa-katsu, so I’m asking here. I’d really appreciate your advice.
9 answers
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
You could say, in a cute, gentle way:
“I get jealous, so could you please stop sending me photos of your family?”
and politely ask him to stop.
That papa (a male supporter) is either pretty thick-skinned or just the right amount of oblivious.
Personally, when I’m with a papa-katsu woman, I never bring up or involve my family at all. It kills the mood for me.
These days, I choose papa-katsu women who are older than my daughter. When they’re around my daughter’s age, I feel just a tiny bit guilty. Maybe I won’t care as much once my daughter gets older, though... lol.
Other
Sorry, but I’ve never felt down in the first place by comparing myself with my papa’s daughter or family.
I do think things like, “Her dad was strict, but her papa really spoils his daughter,” though.
I’m grateful that I was raised strictly, so when I hear about how much a papa must love his daughter, it actually makes me think, “I should do more for my own parents.”
Another major reason I don’t get depressed might be that I’d hate having a father who does papa-katsu.
A father who does papa-katsu and sleeps with young women is the absolute worst, right? Sometimes I even think, “If his daughter or wife found out about this, they’d probably be devastated. I feel so sorry for them.”
Maybe I’m just a mean person.
I was wondering whether you could try looking at it that way too, but maybe that’s difficult.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Thank you for your question. I’ll share my thoughts as well.
Some women only do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) with single men and won’t see married men, so I don’t think your view is particularly strange.
That said, if you only see unmarried men, your pool of potential partners will probably be smaller, so you’ll need to consider how to handle that.
If it’s too difficult for you, I recommend only seeing unmarried men. Ultimately, it’s a matter of personal choice.
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
For someone who’s been doing this for three years, you seem to have a pretty sensible outlook. But if you want to earn money, sometimes you have to set aside your own sense of what’s normal—or even your conscience—not just in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), but in any line of work.
If you’re going to continue, you may need to ask him to stop sending photos. Even if that gives you temporary relief, you’ll need to become a little stronger and learn to treat it as a transactional relationship; otherwise, you’ll find yourself struggling with the same issues again.
👨 Male
Universe member
Those feelings are important, so please value them.
As the relationship continues, it can start to feel normal, and even when you no longer really need it, you may find yourself unable to bring it to an end.
It’s important to draw the line somewhere. Keep going while watching for the right opportunity and timing to end the relationship.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I think it’s important to let them know that “our circumstances are different.”
It’s also true that quite a number of girls do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) because of their family’s financial situation—or rather, because they have no choice but to.
From their perspective, those photos could be seen as flaunting differences that make them feel even more painfully aware of their already desperate, awful, hellish circumstances.
I think it’s perfectly understandable that you feel that way, and it’s also very sensible that you haven’t told anyone around you.
Other
I don’t compare myself to other people in the first place, so I can’t really understand how you feel. But I think it’s better to tell him clearly when something bothers you.
When you do, I think it’s best to explain why and frame it as a request.
Marika
Added after reading Mac’s answer:
I only get jealous of my wife when it comes to my favorite papa (a male supporter). So I told him not to talk about his wife or show me photos of her when we’re together.
At first, I didn’t mind him calling her next to me, but I started liking him more and more. So these days, he seems to be considerate of my feelings.
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s a perfectly normal feeling, so please don’t worry. A lot of women find it painful. Keep working toward your dreams without giving up.
Please refer to my answer below:
https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/14269
P.S.
Reading the answers from Maezawa and others, they seem to be focusing on the fact that “the man is married,” but I think the real point of this question is the “daughter.”
Questions about “papa’s daughter” come up periodically. The background is the unfairness of being born into different families and the problem of social inequality. I’ll copy and paste my answer from the link above.
Most married papas are probably too insensitive to notice, and no matter how much you explain it, it won’t really sink in. So I think the only option is to explain it to them as follows:
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When they hear about a papa’s daughter around their own age, they often seem to feel miserable, thinking, “She’s living happily just because she was born into his family, while I have to be intimate with him just to receive money.”
Some women are fine with seeing a photo of the wife, but feel uncomfortable if young children are in it. They may think, “Maybe I’m going to be the reason this family falls apart.”
I’ve never heard anyone say they were jealous of the wife.
Considering the risk of being sued for compensation, knowing what kind of person the wife is could be useful, so if he’s willing to show you a photo, it might be better to see one. But when you think about it, sending a family photo basically means, “You’re dating a married man.” If his wife saw that message history, she’d probably be furious.
So how about explaining that and saying, from a risk-avoidance standpoint, “Please don’t send me any more photos like that”?
Something like: “When you send me photos like these, if your wife ever finds out, it could look like I was knowingly involved in an affair, which might make her resent me even more. So I’d rather you didn’t.”
I often see Paper Airplane and Seattle writing little complaints about their own daughters. I wonder what’s going on psychologically—do women around the same age feel envious because those daughters are living so boldly, and think they should make their own daughters take notes?
Even if they’re disappointing daughters, they’re still living happily simply because they won the birth lottery. It only highlights the social hierarchy and inequality, so I don’t think it’s something to be proud of, lol. The more they complain, the more counterproductive it becomes; they’re just spreading sadness throughout the papa-katsu community.
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入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
The other day, while soaking in an open-air bath in Ginzan Onsen, Yamagata, after getting a G-cup woman all worked up, we talked about how it isn’t easy to define what “normal” really means.
We never quite reached a conclusion, but I thought the questioner’s emotional ups and downs were perfectly normal—about as normal as me feeling like getting carried away whenever I step into an open-air bath.
That said, I can’t really understand why you would ask this kind of question here, so perhaps that part isn’t quite normal. Still, that’s just the rambling of someone who always feels like getting carried away in an open-air bath, so please don’t pay it any mind.
I hope you can properly communicate your feelings to your papa (a male supporter) and enjoy a calm, happy relationship.