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Jul 15, 2023 21:20
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Is there any way I can collect the money in this situation...?
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So you’re a Universe member.
Well, men’s screening is pretty lax, so it’s not surprising that someone like that slipped through. It is a higher hurdle than using an app, though, since there’s at least an interview, not to mention the fees.
It might be interesting to analyze feedback from Universe’s male members and investigate just how many unreliable men there are.
As for your question, I don’t think you’ll be able to recover the money. An escort club isn’t a sexual-services agency.
That said, if you weren’t even given the initial ¥5,000–¥10,000 transportation allowance, I think you may have been able to recover that amount.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
That’s what people call “petit,” right?
I always assumed women like that were on Twitter or dating sites.
Since they’re looking for something different, I honestly wish both men and women like that would be permanently banned.
That said, if she were a virgin, I might be okay with starting with a petit arrangement involving only foreplay and no penetration, taking plenty of time before eventually going further.
The difference is that an adult relationship (intimate) is assumed to happen eventually.
しろうさ
Male
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Shiro Usagi, a newcomer to the answer team.
Didn’t you let him touch you? In that case, it’s understandable that he got annoyed. As for him finishing, it depends on how he was feeling and how much effort you put in, but did you do your best?
Even so, that’s a separate matter from your allowance.
Given the situation, I assume this was your first date. Why not contact him and say, “I’ll leave feedback saying that we had an adult relationship (intimate), but I didn’t receive the agreed allowance”?
At PATOLO, your feedback is posted as-is, and there’s also a chance they’ll add a note to the man’s profile on Univa. If that happens, no one will accept his offers anymore, and he’ll be left paying membership fees without getting anywhere.
Since it’s true that you went to the room by mutual consent, he might say, “Please don’t do that,” and pay you afterward.
From now on, if he doesn’t show any sign of giving you the allowance before entering the room, say, “Could I receive the allowance first?”
If he says, “Later,” remind him by saying, “I once got so caught up in things that I completely forgot afterward.” If he still doesn’t pay, you’re better off leaving. Otherwise, he may try to stiff you or reduce the amount.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Once you get to the hotel, it’s standard to receive the allowance upfront. Say so, and if he won’t pay, leave immediately.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
If the arrangement involves providing sexual services in exchange for money, wouldn’t that be prostitution?
Since prostitution is prohibited, I can’t really say much about troubles arising from it here.
That said, the Penal Code was amended two days ago, and the offense is now called “non-consensual indecent acts.”
You might first tell him:
“I did not consent to what happened this time, so I’m considering consulting the police about whether it constitutes non-consensual indecent acts.”
If that doesn’t seem to change anything, I think you should actually go and consult the police.
It may depend on whether he merely made you perform indecent acts without doing anything himself. However, if he engaged in even slightly indecent conduct, consider whether you were:
- unable to form, express, or carry through your intention not to consent; or
- made to fear, or actually feared, suffering a disadvantage because of influence based on an economic or social power relationship.
If either applies, it may be possible to hold him criminally responsible.
That said, even if he’s arrested under the Penal Code, the questioner won’t gain anything from that directly. So it may be best to view criminal charges as leverage for reaching a civil settlement, and have a lawyer negotiate a settlement with him.
The amount would depend on how serious the offense is under the Penal Code, but I think it would be reasonable to seek a settlement of ¥500,000–¥1,000,000.
In other words, the man may end up having to pay ¥500,000–¥1,000,000 simply because he tried to save ¥20,000.
Conversely, if you feel, “I can’t forgive this man. I don’t want money, so I won’t settle,” then he could end up in serious trouble socially.
However, if your goal is to provide sexual services in exchange for money, I think you’d be better off working in the adult entertainment industry.