Tips Jun 16, 2023 18:00

Losing my papas

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I’ve met around 50 men through this site, but basically, after one or two meetings, they stop replying and things end. I haven’t had a single papa continue seeing me for years. I’m listed as Type D, and as long as the allowance is agreed upon, I invite them to a hotel from the first meeting. I ask for an allowance of 5 for an adult relationship (intimate). Is it normal for papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) arrangements to end like this?
👤 Asked by Guest 👩GenderFemale 🎂 20s 👑 Universe female member
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Fuu
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
If you’ve met that many people and none of the arrangements have lasted, maybe your adult relationship (intimate) isn’t appealing—are you too passive? Is there an issue with your smell? Or perhaps you’re simply not worth 50,000 yen. That may be why they want to look for someone else. Ask a few papas who have stopped seeing you what went wrong. Asking just one person could give you a biased view. I think you need to make some improvements.
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You may be able to find this in the site’s archives, but there was a discussion about how many of the women male members offered to continued for at least three dates. The figure was roughly 10–15%. I had a similar experience, so I remember thinking, “Oh, I guess this is pretty common for everyone.” In terms of numbers, that’s about one in seven to ten women. There’s advice for men that if you want to meet a good woman through a dating club, you should make at least ten offers. Given those odds, it does seem likely that you’ll meet one woman you’d want to continue seeing if you meet ten. Looking at it the other way, I suppose that if a woman receives offers from seven to ten men, about one of them will turn into a long-term arrangement. Since you’ve met 50 men, it wouldn’t be unusual for five to seven of them to have continued. Having none is quite unlikely. An allowance of 50,000 yen isn’t so high that it would prevent things from continuing. I think there must be another factor. At other dating clubs, women are automatically placed toward the C end of the scale, so women who are prepared for an adult relationship (intimate) tend to choose D at Universe. But from the perspective of male members at Universe, with women in categories A and B as well, D comes across as being quite close to the adult-entertainment industry. As far as I know, women who work across multiple clubs generally choose C, so switching to C might change the situation. I’ve heard that even in the adult-entertainment industry, once someone has been doing it for a while, repeat customers and new customers end up being about half and half. So even by those standards, your retention rate seems low. Being passive and unresponsive during intimacy is a physiological matter and can’t really be helped, but I think you could try to keep the conversation lively and make an effort to spend the time in a way that seems genuinely enjoyable. Even women in the adult-entertainment industry, especially in Kansai, often prepare new material every week. (When they work twice a week and run out of things to talk about, the worried look on their faces is pretty cute too, lol.) I hope this helps. Taro
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だて◎ゆめ
👨 Male Universe member
Relationships with a papa (a male supporter) often don’t last because men at dating clubs are highly ambitious and always striving for more. That’s why they’re attractive men who are wealthy, full of vitality, and unwilling to settle—although that can be a bit of a double-edged sword(笑) I think it’s because, even when the woman they’re seeing is great, they keep looking for someone even better or cuter. I’m basically the same, too—I’m just not pursuing anyone else right now because I have a lot going on. I suppose you can maintain a long-term relationship with men who think, “This is probably good enough… I’m happy with things like this.”
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Since you’re a D type and give off a strong transactional vibe, you may be more likely to attract papas who treat it like a paid service. Or maybe your conversations are boring—or, sorry to say, you seem a little unintelligent and they lose interest… I’m sorry. But this is probably a matter of type, so I feel like switching to B would be better.
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シアトル
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
Either you’re completely passive during sex, or you don’t initiate conversation and aren’t interesting to talk to. Since you’re getting offers, you must be attractive—it’s a waste. If you did things properly, you could make hundreds of millions.
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
It might be better not to rush the allowance and go with B1 or B2. There may not be many women who want to meet a third time after having an adult relationship twice. I think that’s even more noticeable if she’s a Type D. I don’t think I’ve ever made an offer to a Type D before.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
What does it mean when a papa-katsu arrangement ends?
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