Tips Jan 18, 2023 00:26

Was I being underestimated because the allowances I was offered were low when I had just joined?

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I’m in the Platinum class, and it’s been about a year since I registered. Even when the amount is on the lower end, I receive at least ¥50,000 per meeting. When I first joined, I was flooded with offers and met around five men within two weeks. However, most of them offered relatively low amounts—usually around ¥30,000 or ¥40,000. I didn’t know the going rate at the time, so I accepted those offers. Does that mean they were taking advantage of me? Are men more likely to offer lower amounts to women who have just joined?
👤 Asked by Guest 👩GenderFemale 🎂 20s 👑 Universe female member
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Rather than asking whether they’re taking advantage of you or looking down on you, why not simply say, “That works for me!” if you’re okay with it, or “Sorry, but I can’t!” if you’re not? > Are there many men who offer a low amount to women who have just joined? I don’t think there are that many. Ultimately, it depends on the man’s mindset.
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At the time, maybe he met you with high expectations, but you turned out not to be what he expected? If you had lived up to his expectations, I think he would’ve paid you a decent amount since he chose you because he liked you. If he was being flooded with messages and meeting several new girls every week, he probably couldn’t keep track of who he talked about what with, or who was who. Naturally, conversations would end up being like that…
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
It’s not about whether they’re taking you lightly or not. If almost all the papas are offering that amount, then maybe that’s simply the appropriate market value for you. Fast fashion isn’t cheaper than high-end designer clothing because it’s disrespectful. It’s because the value buyers perceive matches the branding created by the makers. I feel like it’s based on a similar principle.
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I’ve never thought, “Since she’s new, I’ll offer her less.” That said, I did have the impression that someone who had just registered probably wouldn’t be jaded yet, so she likely wouldn’t ask for an extremely high amount. The men you initially met may have offered lower amounts because they didn’t have much of a budget to begin with. After making several offers and having them fall through because the terms didn’t align, they may have decided to look for someone who had only recently registered. So rather than looking down on you because you were new, perhaps they simply didn’t have much financial leeway in the first place. If you’re not satisfied with the allowance, you don’t have to accept it. All you need to do is clearly communicate that to the other person. More importantly, if you become too guarded, thinking, “I can’t let people take advantage of me,” you may lose your freshness and come across as jaded, which could end up driving away genuinely wonderful men. Keep an open mind, but stand firm in your decisions.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Rather than being looked down on, the real issue is that Universe isn’t properly explaining the allowance to the men. When joining, their stance is basically: “Please discuss the allowance and decide it between the two of you. The going rate? We don’t know (and can’t tell you), so could you look it up online?” Because of that, I think more and more men are assuming that the same allowance as on an app is fine. If the allowance is the same as on an app, women would naturally prefer using an app, since it offers many advantages: - No need to go through the trouble of attending a first meeting in person - You can register photos edited to your liking - You can sign up easily from anywhere That’s why I feel the idea that an allowance higher than what’s offered on apps is necessary at a dating club isn’t getting across. Other dating clubs are involved in setting the allowance, so perhaps this doesn’t happen there. Also, men who have experience with other dating clubs don’t seem to offer such low allowances. In that sense, I actually wish more men would register with other dating clubs too. (Though part of me thinks that even then, many men would still prefer Universe.) > The like counts in the question box are strange. Why are they all the same? A few days ago, I thought it might be a bug and asked a programmer to fix it. After looking into it, they concluded that it was highly likely someone had manually given the same number of likes to everyone. So apparently, it wasn’t a programming issue after all. If you try something and everyone’s like count suddenly becomes the same, please let me know what the conditions were when it happened. (I wasn’t able to reproduce it myself.)
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
When I first came from the app, the going rate there was around 30,000 yen, so four years ago I offered 30,000 yen too. That’s how it started, and it continued for a long time. Eventually, we moved to a monthly arrangement, and I increased the amount. After discovering this message board, I stopped offering 30,000 yen. There are more male members lately, so maybe there’s a wide variety of people. They might be beginners. Let’s see whether they have potential. If you already have a good supporter, you can either raise the amount or turn them down. As usual, the like count on the Q&A box is acting strange. Why are they all exactly the same? Maybe I’ll email the club. P.S. Thank you for checking ↑ There really are people with that much free time, huh? Though I’m no different for writing this answer.
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