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Nov 20, 2022 09:17
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You mentioned that “Heaven helps those who help themselves,” but doesn’t choosing papa-katsu because I don’t want to inconvenience my parents or the people around me as much as possible count as taking action and making an effort myself?
Living is so painful that I feel I could end my life at any time. Is it really wrong for papa-katsu to be the straw I’m clinging to?
If my way of thinking is mistaken, I would be grateful if someone could help me correct it. Thank you.
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🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Even if I told the person asking the question,
“I’m poor and unfortunate, but I’m doing my best. I’m making an effort, but I can’t earn enough,”
it wouldn’t change anything.
Likewise, maybe your methods are wrong, maybe you’re not trying hard enough, or maybe you don’t have the looks to make serious money through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
We can’t become you or live your life for you, so the only option is for you to find your own path.
Good luck.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
Since soccer season is about to heat up, I’ll explain it with a soccer analogy.
Near the opponent’s goal, Forward ① and a defender battle for the ball, which spills loose. Another teammate, Forward ②, happens to be running in and scores with a direct shot.
Scoring from a lucky rebound may seem like pure chance, but in reality, inevitability plays a bigger role than luck.
Forward ② had anticipated that the ball might spill loose. He calculated a position from which he could score using his own skill, then ran into that spot thinking, “If the ball comes here, I can score.” The ball happened to spill there. The final moment was chance, but the situation was driven more by preparation than luck.
In other words, he was prepared to take advantage when luck came his way. I think that’s what it really means to have luck on your side.
Other
Why not try making a truly sincere effort—putting in some blood, sweat, and tears?
Taking the first step into papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) may have required courage, but thinking that means you’re entitled to earn money is short-sighted.
If you were aiming for a reverse offer, then congratulations—you succeeded.
Akari
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
The idea that papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) alone could ruin your life seems misguided to me.
If you’re young, you have plenty of time to start over.
To be blunt, things you do when you feel like you’re clinging to the last bit of hope usually don’t work out well.
That’s because you don’t have the emotional room to spare.
Do you really think a man would enjoy meeting a woman who’s that emotionally overwhelmed?
Don’t aim for a relationship where only you benefit. Try to build one where the man also enjoys spending time with you.
That’s how you increase your chances of meeting an ideal supporter.
I don’t expect a single answer to change someone’s way of thinking, but I hope this is at least somewhat helpful.
Other
“Girls whose lives are ruined by papa-katsu” or “Is it just luck?”
As long as people use phrases like that, it makes you think they’re relying too much on others, lol.
For example:
An owner of a company with a high turnover rate comes to you and says, “I want employees who won’t quit,” lol. It’s common to look for the solution in external conditions.
Companies with low turnover, on the other hand, try to be good companies by empathizing with their employees and working on the conditions from within.
In reality, someone who doesn’t quit isn’t a “spec” or a fixed trait. It’s a factor that emerges from the relationship between the company and its employees. Someone who used to change jobs repeatedly may eventually settle down, while someone who had worked somewhere for years may suddenly quit.
Is being a good papa a matter of specs?
Aren’t you saying the same thing as an executive who says, “I want people who won’t quit,” or “Is finding good employees just a matter of luck?”
It might be worth looking inward a little more and asking yourself these questions.
You may say, “I don’t want to trouble my parents. I chose papa-katsu myself.” But if you’re still relying on others, aren’t you simply stopping at looking for a good papa?
You can decide whom to choose yourself, but being chosen depends on the other person’s will. It goes both ways, lol.
A papa who is good in everyone’s eyes is fiction. Someone can be the perfect papa for one girl and a bad papa for another—that’s what feels realistic to me.
Papas are human too, lol. Some are dependent on others, but many act while questioning themselves, seeking their own happiness and enjoyment. Don’t they think, “This girl is so wonderful—I want to treat her well,” and “I want her to see me as a good papa,” and then make an effort?
I don’t think it’s a bad idea to question whether one factor in creating a good papa might actually be the questioner herself, lol. Though what do I know? lol
P.S. @Mac
I also want you to become stronger so you can get better at spotting the good ones in the gacha, lol.
Having high self-esteem is a good thing. I like that kind of attitude, lol.
Other
I’m Potassium, a female member.
As Kazu-san said... Leaving aside the fact that it was so blunt I almost cried, here’s how I see it, in my own words.
First of all, choosing to do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) was the questioner’s decision, and they may have worked hard to get to that point. That’s genuinely impressive.
However, at this point, that’s a glory of the past.
To begin with, judging from your question, I’m guessing you started papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) to make money. (Sorry if I’m wrong.)
The moment you decide to rely on other people to make money, you’re already taking the easy way out. You can earn money yourself. Of course, it probably won’t be as efficient as papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), and life will likely become much harder.
No, seriously, working for a living is tough... Why would anyone willingly wake up at 5:30, commute on a packed train, work eight hours plus overtime, and spend the weekend mentally preparing for the following week?
But that’s the responsibility that comes with a decision I made in the past: becoming someone who can only work for this level of pay.
Sometimes I want to curse my foolish younger self. Things might have been different if I had studied and learned more.
I understand that you can’t earn enough on your own right now and feel desperate enough to cling to any straw. But your current situation is the result of your past decisions—decisions that haven’t exactly turned into glory.
Focusing only on the parts of your past that give you confidence and telling yourself, “I’m doing my best,” is too naive. Every decision comes with responsibility. The good and bad luck in your life also stems from the decisions you made in the past.
And besides, a straw is still just a straw. You’ll drown if you rely on it.
You’d be better off preparing your own field, planting your own crops, and getting to the point where you can harvest from your own land.
If you go to the field of a man who has learned how to earn money and merely take the leftover rice and straw, eventually you’ll just be banned from the premises.
You need to take responsibility for your past decisions from beginning to end. Finding confidence in those decisions should only be used to maintain your mental health. What matters is finding what you can do on your own now.
Thinking only about clinging to a straw is simply too naive.
There’s no such thing as a universally wrong way of thinking, but I personally believe that any mindset that doesn’t help you grow is meaningless.
That’s just my personal opinion, though.
>Mac-san
It’s just my personal opinion, lol.
This is how I’ve managed to live, but I’m not trying to force this way of thinking on anyone.
However, as a fellow woman, I do think times are changing to the point where women won’t be able to get by in the future simply by relying on men. The younger you are, the more you need to prepare, or you’ll go hungry later in life.
Papa supporters are older than us, after all, and they’ll die before we do. Once you get older, papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) will become more difficult too, so I don’t think it offers any stability, either now or in the future.
That’s exactly why.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I don’t know whether I’m right or wrong, but I don’t think the world is so easy that your life will suddenly turn around just because you took action or made an effort once.
It’s naïve to think that simply choosing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) as a means will solve anything.
Luck does exist, but attracting or seizing good luck requires daily, consistent effort. I think the questioner’s attempt to dismiss everything as “just luck” is also naïve.
The mentality of blaming others—“papa-katsu ruined my life”—is merely giving up on making an effort and blaming other people, one’s circumstances, or luck. It’s a far cry from helping oneself.
Mac,
That’s not harsh. It’s normal.
Or perhaps I’m only trying to be kind by giving you a serious answer.
I get the feeling you desperately want me to validate you, but I can’t exactly take care of everything for you, so I can’t whisper sweet words here.
Adding this after reading Dai’s answer:
> The idea that papa-katsu could ruin your life in the first place feels completely wrong to me.
I agree.
As the questioner yourself wrote, “Can’t choosing papa-katsu count as taking action and making an effort on my own?” You were the one who chose papa-katsu.
So even if something bad happened to you because of papa-katsu, it’s not that your “life was ruined”—you “ruined yourself.”