Hearing that the salon’s expected allowance is 100,000 yen made me feel relieved that my sense of money is reasonable.
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I do occasionally come across male members offering 50,000 or 70,000 yen per meeting...
And those men, of all people, are the ones who suggest meeting frequently or going on trips—dates that take up a lot of time... Are they desperately trying to get their money’s worth? Why is that?
Also, when it comes to allowances, I may be offered 50,000 or 70,000 yen, but never 40,000 or 60,000 yen.
Why is that? Is there really such a big difference between 40,000 and 50,000 yen, or between 60,000 and 70,000 yen?
I also feel like there’s a 100,000-yen barrier when it comes to allowances.
Men who pay 100,000 yen and men who pay less seem different—not just financially, but in how much emotional leeway they have. The men who haggle over the odd increments, in particular, seem to have less breathing room.
For example:
→ “A woman of this level is willing to see me for this amount, so I must have something attractive about me beyond the allowance.” ← When in reality, she may simply have had no other offers or may be short on money and unable to afford to be picky.
Why do men fall into this kind of misconception?
I feel that the more generous the allowance, the more likely a man is to understand his position, think rationally, and pay properly.
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Arbitrary labeling, lol.
Go right ahead.
If you don’t want papas who offer less than 10, that’s your choice.
It’s all about mutual consent, so feel free.
Girls who are all about money are really a no-go for me, though.
At least try to hide it well on the surface.
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Deciding the allowance amount is kind of like judging the M-1 Grand Prix.
If I give that girl 11, I can’t give this girl 12. Or, if that girl gets 15, maybe this girl should get 16? I decide the allowance in one-point increments.
That said, I never go below 10.
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> I occasionally come across male members who offer 5 or 7 per pay-per-meeting arrangement...
And those men, of all people, tend to suggest meeting often or going on trips and other dates that take up a lot of time...
I’ve actually had the opposite experience. The papas who offered 5 often seemed apologetic, saying things like, “I’m sorry it’s such a small amount. A short date is fine.”
I may have occasionally been invited on trips by men offering 5–7, but there were also plenty of men offering over 10 who invited me on trips.
In the first place, I’m the type who often gets invited on trips or long dates—there are a lot of genuinely romantic papas who often tell me, “I just want to be with you all the time”—so I’ve never really thought much in terms of “papas who offer this amount are like this.” It doesn’t matter, since every papa invites me out anyway.
Whenever someone said they wanted to see me frequently and I didn’t like the idea, I’d gradually distance myself regardless of the amount. And even if the amount was low, I’d happily go on a long date if I liked him.
I’ll probably continue doing the same. Sorry this answer isn’t very helpful.
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Your analysis is excellent. I think you’ve assessed the situation very accurately.
Try to put that analysis to use in your relationship. As Misato mentioned, if you can maintain an ongoing arrangement, you don’t necessarily need to keep getting new offers.
You still have a bit of a cute, inexperienced-country-girl vibe yourself（笑）. You remind me of what one of the women I’m seeing was like when I first met her.
I hope you graduate from that stage as soon as possible. I’m rooting for you, so keep at it!
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If you’re hoping to receive a substantial allowance through a dating club, I don’t think a pay-per-meeting arrangement of 100,000 or 150,000 yen is what you’re looking for. Pay-per-meeting relationships can be unstable, and I imagine it’s stressful not knowing when things might suddenly end.
From the way you phrased your question, it sounds like you want to receive a generous allowance. If so, a monthly arrangement with a papa (a male supporter) may be your best option.
To make that work, you need to be the kind of woman a papa chooses. Of course, you also need to be chosen by pay-per-meeting papas for those arrangements to continue, but once you become someone special to a papa, you won’t have to worry about how much you’ll receive each time.
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I couldn’t understand at all what was supposedly reasonable about my sense of money.
To me, the person asking the question comes across as nothing more than a sex worker.
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I’m Paper Airplane, and women keep telling me they want to see me often or go on trips and other dates that take up a lot of time—even though I pay 50,000 yen or less per pay-per-meeting arrangement, whether through a salon or independently.
To put it more accurately:
“I think the allowance is already more than enough for a woman of this caliber to see me for this amount.” Or she may be someone who isn’t used to dating clubs at all and hasn’t become immersed in papa-katsu.
If it’s a good relationship, neither of us should need to discuss the allowance…
> If she has no other offers, or is struggling financially and can’t afford to be picky about who she sees
That’s true—there are women like that, too. I can’t exactly abandon them… But in those cases, I don’t become particularly fond of them either, so my attitude is more like, “Please move on once you find a papa who offers a decent allowance.” Until then, I’ll support you casually.
I don’t say that outright, but I think it shows in my behavior—in the allowance I give and in how often I contact them…
If she stops contacting me, that’s the end of it. I never chase after anyone…
I assume she found a papa who gives her a proper allowance. I’m glad for her.
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I’m Kazu, and I know my place, think practically, and properly pay 5 upfront so the woman can enjoy herself with me（笑）
Judging from the context of your question, I assume you’re talking about a pay-per-meeting arrangement. But even if you meet often, the number of times you pay the allowance also increases, so I don’t think she’s trying to recoup what she’s spending.
I don’t think there’s much difference between 4, 5, 6, and 7. Personally, I don’t like worrying about odd amounts, so I usually think of the allowance as either 5 or 10.
If the woman feels that 5 is acceptable, the relationship continues. If she doesn’t think it’s worth it, then it doesn’t develop into a relationship. That’s all there is to it.
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