There’s a papa in his 50s who says he has around 30 million yen in savings. He says that even after retirement, he’ll probably be able to get by in old age as long as he doesn’t live extravagantly....
Honestly, I was shocked because that’s about the same amount as my own savings.
But this papa bought an 80-million-yen condo. He said he could have paid for it all at once, but taking out a mortgage was better because of the tax benefits.
Even though he only has 30 million yen in savings...?
Come to think of it, the restaurants he takes me to are usually places where dinner costs around 3,000–5,000 yen per person lol. His clothes, appearance, and car also don’t seem particularly expensive.
He only has one child, who has apparently already become independent.
Honestly, even among the men at the same salon, there seems to be a huge gap between someone just making around 40 million yen a year and someone earning over 100 million....
You can tell from their choice of restaurants, the hotels they choose, the allowance they offer, and even how quickly they think and how much knowledge they have when you talk to them...
Is that just what wealthy people are like?
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Looks and what someone says can be faked so easily, so who knows how much of it is actually true?
There are all kinds of wealthy people.
Near my house, there’s an 80-year-old man who always wears a tank top and loose shorts. He looks like a strange old man—like Ken Shimura. His home is practically falling apart, but he’s a famous local landowner.
Inside the dilapidated room, there are tons of spare keys to his rental properties hanging openly on the wall（笑）. He must have considerable assets. Every now and then, you can even see cars from stockbrokers and real estate companies lined up in front of his run-down house.
Rich people come in all kinds.
If you have ¥30 million in savings, why not quit papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and start a business instead? It seems like such a waste.
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People who can earn money on their own simply know how not to waste it.
Meanwhile, you’re just someone who saves up the crumbs you get and acts all high and mighty.
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What about you, the person asking the question, continuing papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) with the same amount in savings?
> I’m buying an 80-million-yen condo.
I think that’s sensible and just right.
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I’m not a salon member, but I used to date someone who earned hundreds of millions of yen a year. We didn’t meet through a dating club, though. Despite his high income, he wasn’t wasteful. He was always thinking about various new business ventures and didn’t spend lavishly in his everyday life. He did spend money on things like cars and his home, though…
Living in a building owned by his company would probably count as a business expense, after all. I don’t think you can really know what someone is like from a short-term relationship. Some people report an income of only ¥20 million a year but have substantial assets.
You can’t measure a person by their income or allowance.
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Since she isn’t a salon member, I feel like she may be lying.
Could she be someone who was rejected at the interview, or perhaps not even a woman in the first place?
As Mac-san also wrote, when it comes to savings and annual income, very few people tell the complete truth at first.
But as you continue talking, it usually becomes more like, “Wait, so they don’t earn just tens of millions of yen a year—maybe they’re making over 100 million…”
In the first place, truly wealthy people are also very thorough about tax planning, so their stated annual income probably won’t exceed 20 million yen. And if someone had substantial savings despite earning less than 20 million yen a year, that would seem unnatural, so I imagine they take steps to address that as well.
> Even among men at the same salon, there’s honestly quite a gap between someone barely earning 40 million yen a year and someone earning over 100 million…
I think it’s less about annual income or savings and more about the amount of the allowance.
At a salon, I assume everyone gives at least 100,000 yen.
(I happened to see some internal salon materials the other day, and they listed the expected allowance as 100,000 yen. I was surprised that there was such a thing as an “expected allowance.”
It also seemed a little low, but perhaps they use the overall average as the benchmark, which would make around 100,000 yen the expected amount.
I do wonder how the staff view men who give less than that, though（笑）. Since the allowance is ultimately up to each person even at a salon, I assume they treat them normally on the surface.)
If you’re more concerned about the amount of savings than the allowance, does that mean you’re worried about what kinds of gifts you might receive?
If you act too money-focused, men will dislike you.
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The wealthy man I know personally
(a man in his 70s who’s less than a papa-katsu arrangement and not a romantic partner)
has an impressive academic background and still works for a well-known company, but his replies are completely unrelated to what I ask him（笑）
I’m used to it now, though, so I find it endearing and cute♪
I don’t think someone’s savings are something you should ask about, so I don’t choose people based on how much money they have saved(´；ω；｀)
But he buys and grinds his own coffee to enjoy, and he has a wonderful amplifier, so both classical music and bands sound amazing. If he’s satisfied with his life as it is, isn’t that what matters?（人´∀`*）
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I’m also a salon member—Rin here!
I’m not sure whether this is just a question that makes you think, “So what?” or whether you’re trying to put down your papa…
No matter how much he has in savings, I don’t think it really concerns you, does it? Are you planning to get all of it? As long as you’re receiving your allowance properly, I don’t see why you’d need to worry about it. I don’t ask my own papa how much he has saved, either.
If you don’t like going to restaurants where meals cost ¥3,000–¥5,000, then either say you want to go somewhere nicer—or become the kind of woman who’s worth that level of treatment.
I don’t think you should make fun of your papa too much. It may end up lowering your own value as well.
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They were probably someone who spent money beyond their means to begin with.
Even the ¥80 million condo was beyond what their income justified, but perhaps they thought, “Buying this will raise my status.”
Since they seem to enjoy conspicuous consumption, there’s a chance that if you know how to flatter their pride, you could turn them into a generous papa (a male supporter) who’ll pour all their available money into you. Good luck.
As for how to classify wealthy people, I feel that whether they’re business owners matters more than their annual income when it comes to their personality.
Business-owner papas often have more expenses they can put through the company, and how they present themselves tends to matter more, so they give the impression of spending money lavishly. That said, their spending is flashy but carefully balanced.
For example, they might spend ¥1.5 million in one night opening bottle after bottle of champagne at an important business dinner, yet on an ordinary shopping trip, they’ll stock up on a day when PayPay offers extra savings and try to get everything even ¥1 cheaper. The truly outstanding papas I’ve encountered often know how to switch between splurging and being frugal.
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In papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), things like annual income and assets are completely irrelevant.
“What matters is how much allowance you can give your PJ.”
That’s everything. Even if he only earns ¥3 million a year, a papa (a male supporter) who can reliably give ¥100,000 is a good papa. Being kind to women is just the bare minimum, isn’t it? Being good in bed means he can give less allowance? Does a woman really feel satisfied with ¥50,000 just because he’s a clean-cut, handsome older guy?
Hellooo, this is a papa-katsu site, not a dating or hookup app~
Even if you live in an apartment worth well over ¥100 million, own multiple Ferraris or McLarens, have ¥200 million in cash, and graduated from Todai’s most elite science track, you’re still a nonstarter if your pay-per-meeting allowance is only in the single digits.
If you want to brag about being rich, please make it at least ¥100,000 per meeting first. And stingy papas who have money but can’t pay ¥100,000 each time should go to a dating site—or suck on their mama’s breasts, for all I care.
That’s what a certain PJ said—not me.
Let me say that again: it wasn’t me, okay? Though, if anything, I suspect about 99% of PJs secretly feel exactly the same way deep in their chests—or should I say, breasts. Who knows.
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> True, the restaurants you usually go to are pretty cheap too—around ¥3,000–¥5,000 per person for dinner.
That’s about what I spend on meals with my monthly arrangement partner too. My ace gets ridiculously excited about Saizeriya or Sushiro, so we’ve never eaten anywhere expensive.
I usually just grab something quick at Sukiya or Ootoya as well. I’ve hardly ever been to a proper sushi restaurant where the sushi isn’t served on a conveyor belt.
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I’m Kazu, a salon member whose annual income is nowhere near 100 million yen（笑）。
I don’t think you can measure someone’s wealth based solely on their cash and deposits. My yen-denominated savings balance isn’t anything to write home about either.
Generally speaking, a wealthy household is defined as one with at least 100 million yen in net financial assets. If someone has several hundred million yen in financial assets, having 30 million yen in cash and deposits is perfectly normal.
Personally, though, I did wonder, “Do you really leave as much as 30 million yen sitting in cash?”
If you take out a mortgage, you can claim the housing loan deduction, which can make a difference of millions of yen per year.
Naturally, if your annual incomes differ by a factor of two, there’s going to be a difference in how you spend your money.
I don’t mean to be rude, but I couldn’t sense much quick thinking or breadth of knowledge from the question-like post you wrote, so hearing that person’s impressions didn’t really resonate with me.
By the way, what exactly is your question?
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