I’m considering joining, but I don’t have much experience, so I’d like to ask for some advice.
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You often hear stories like this online—for example, after going to a hotel, being forcibly intimate with or assaulted, then threatened with a lawsuit, or being blackmailed with photos allegedly taken by a hidden camera that you don’t remember seeing. Is there really a possibility of being subjected to this kind of threatening behavior?
If a woman reports something like that to the club, it seems the man would be unable to do much since he couldn’t prove what actually happened. If something like this did happen, how should one respond?
I’m somewhat worried that, like being falsely accused of groping someone, there might be no way to escape the situation. I’d appreciate it if anyone could share examples from the past or offer some advice.
With a dating club, I don’t think criminal groups would run a honey trap because it takes too much effort.
The woman used for the setup has to submit identification to the club, including a photo ID.
A criminal organization wouldn’t want to submit a real ID to the club, and even forging one would take far too much work. Photos can’t be faked either.
Also, they can’t set anything up without an offer. Since there are no reverse offers, they’d have to wait, which is inefficient.
Even if the woman’s side tried to sue, the club would support the papa (a male supporter) as long as he hadn’t done anything wrong. And since many papas have money, it’s easy to imagine lawyers getting involved too.
I don’t think criminal groups would take that kind of risk for something so troublesome and unlikely to succeed.
If they wanted to run honey traps efficiently, dating apps or posts on Twitter looking for papas would be much easier. Even if things didn’t work out, they could simply disappear without leaving any evidence.
The incidents the questioner is referring to that were reported online involved apps and Twitter.
It may not be completely foolproof, but I do think dating clubs can be considered relatively low-risk.
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That sort of thing has happened outside Universe as well. I think it’s safer to join a reputable dating club…
For reference, instead of calling the police, I settled with him privately at the time, and he handed over the computer, hidden cameras, and everything else as a package. Getting rid of it was a hassle, and I didn’t even know where the footage had been sent… so I was pretty depressed for a while(´TωT｀)
P.S. I see you’re a man—sorry!
If everything was consensual and you genuinely ended up being intimate, I think you have every right to assert your position. If you’re worried about the system, maybe it would be better to make offers to Type C or D?
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With Universe Club,
the rules don’t allow you to go straight to a hotel. You’re expected to have a meal together first.
That gives you time during dinner to get a sense of what the other person is like. If you feel comfortable with them, you discuss and agree on the allowance and other terms of the arrangement before going to a hotel.
If the allowance is an amount the woman is satisfied with, it seems unlikely she would need to take the risk of trying to blackmail you. After all, if you continue seeing each other, you become someone she can receive a generous allowance from.
So as long as you:
- Pay close attention to her personality during dinner.
- Clearly ask what allowance she would be satisfied with and agree to pay it.
- Don’t do anything she dislikes.
Things shouldn’t turn into anything strange.
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Surely you’re not thinking of doing that, are you?
This is a dating club, not an app, so if a woman reports it, they’ll probably conduct an investigation by speaking with those involved.
There was a hidden-camera incident before, and I seem to remember the person being permanently banned. If the case is serious, the police will get involved.
Since members’ identities are verified at dating clubs, there should be relatively few people willing to do anything dangerous.
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Crimes are usually driven by people who stand to benefit from them. What would the person threatening or blackmailing you actually gain?
For female members of a dating club, the biggest benefit is building a good relationship with a male member and receiving an allowance, so they generally wouldn’t make a false report like that in the first place.
If you were a major politician or a famous artist, a rival might have something to gain by discrediting you.
Likewise, there could be an incentive if your stories about women had enough news value for a weekly magazine to pay well for them—but getting a publisher to take action is extremely difficult. Are you really that valuable?
Even if this were just someone causing trouble for fun, they’d probably target free apps full of poorly informed male users, or unlicensed services where it’s easy to exploit men’s guilty consciences. Universe Club complies with the law, has thorough risk management, and attracts respectable clientele, so it’s difficult to pull something like that off there. Criminals aren’t stupid, so they wouldn’t come here lol. If you think of the membership and annual fees male members pay the club as insurance against trouble, they’re pretty cheap.
If anyone were to target the person asking this question, it would probably be your wife. There’s quite a lot she could gain by using it as leverage in divorce negotiations. Be careful.
I understand why you’re worried, but don’t you think you might be a little overly self-conscious? Other people aren’t thinking about you nearly as much as you think they are. And for your own protection, I think you should first improve your information literacy.
—It’s Me
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It’s possible, but I’ve never actually heard of that happening.
I have heard of similar extortion-like cases on apps and dating sites.
If you’re really worried, I think the safest option is simply not to use a dating club.
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I’ve met people through clubs more than 30 times, but I’ve never encountered anything like that.
The cases I occasionally hear about involving men are things like money being taken from their wallets.
Once they go to a hotel, it’s basically considered a private relationship, so the club doesn’t get involved.
If a woman claims that she was forced into something or assaulted, then if it’s true, she would normally report it to the club first.
In that case, I imagine the club would ask you whether something like that really happened.
If a woman makes a personal accusation against you without the club contacting you first, there’s a good chance it’s malicious. You should report to the club that you’re being threatened with false accusations.
As for covert filming, it’s usually the woman who reports being victimized.
Even if something involving a man came to light, I don’t think it would cause that much damage—for example, he could simply say that he went to an adult establishment and was filmed without realizing it…
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If you’re that worried, you should probably just quit.
Using your real name on LINE does mean you can find out exactly who the other person is from the very first meeting, which can be reassuring for both sides. But if you’re constantly worried about your information being misused, you won’t be able to enjoy it.
Also, the other person’s attitude and reactions are a reflection of you.
They won’t be able to enjoy themselves either, and perhaps you simply haven’t had—and won’t have—good experiences with women.
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