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Dec 26, 2025 18:22
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The other day, I met a man through Universe who had only met three women so far.
We spent 1.5 hours having dinner and 2.5 hours at a hotel, making sure to set aside the four hours specified by Universe.
After spending about four hours together, I went home, but then he messaged me saying, “Hopefully next time we can take things a little more slowly.”
Apparently, he wants to spend more than four hours together, but thinks an allowance of 70,000 yen is too much.
Can’t Universe do something about these ridiculous men?
A date is generally four hours: two hours for dinner and two hours at the hotel. Isn’t spending 2.5 hours at the hotel already being considerate?
Besides, everything from taking a bath to finishing can be done within 60 minutes, so what are people thinking when they book a room for three hours?
To prevent more stingy men from paying 50,000 yen while expecting 1.5 hours of dinner and three hours at the hotel, couldn’t Universe make it clear when men join that hotel time is limited to two hours?
If you can only pay 50,000 yen, don’t keep someone tied up for four hours. And if you want to spend three hours at the hotel, offering 50,000 yen is ridiculous.
As another poster mentioned, you can make more money working at a sex-service establishment.
At other dating clubs, it’s common to spend two hours at the hotel and then part ways for 50,000 yen.
The quality of the men at Universe is getting worse and worse.
7 answers
🏅 パパ活お助け相談員
心配事や疑問について、できる限り寄り添いながら回答していきますので、みなさん…お手柔らかにお願いします😊
👨 Male
Universe member
He’s a ridiculous guy who always wants to make the dates last longer. Sorry for being a pain, lol.
The first meeting is limited to four hours, but there shouldn’t be any set time limit from the second meeting onward.
As long as we’re both happy with it, that’s all that matters.
That’s the beauty of “free-form dating” at a dating club.
From a man’s perspective, places that impose strict limits on time and activities can get lost, lol.
So I’m making the most of this free-form dating lifestyle—sleeping over at female members’ homes, going on trips, and doing whatever we feel like.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I have work to do, so I’ll head home as soon as he finishes. Two hours feels too long—an hour and a half would be more than enough.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I see—maybe they were actually happy that I could only last a little over an hour at the hotel, which is why things kept going.
When you break things off, please educate him by saying, “You take way too long, idiot.” Seriously.
横断歩道
Male
Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
This isn’t a sex-work service.
If you’re looking for the best value for your money, please go to a sex-work establishment instead.
Edit: If you don’t want to receive offers from people like that, make sure to clearly state your terms in your profile.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
As a responder, I’m enjoying all the questions. There had been fewer lately, so it seems like everyone has a lot bottled up. Say what you want and let it out!
To begin with, it’s strange to generalize about everyone based on one person you happened to meet.
That papa (a male supporter) was simply that kind of person.
You don’t have to keep going if it’s making you uncomfortable. The questioner just needs to negotiate or turn him down, right?
Since everything is based on mutual agreement, be careful: if you don’t say you’re uncomfortable, it can become the default.
Unlike the adult entertainment industry, there aren’t clearly defined time limits. It’s an individual arrangement based on mutual consent.
As a basic premise, women want as much allowance as possible in as little time as possible, while men want to spend as little as possible while staying together as long as possible. Both sides have their own interests, so that’s just how it is.
There are women who can’t put up with four hours either and negotiate for a shorter meeting. In that case, Fuu simply ends things with them.
The fact that women can choose for themselves and negotiate is one of the good things about papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), unlike the adult entertainment industry.
A dating club’s role is basically just making introductions. After that, it’s up to the individuals. If you keep blaming others instead of handling things yourself, you’ll end up doing whatever the papa says and making things harder for yourself.
Whether you criticize the club or the papa, the person who chose them was ultimately you.
To benefit, you need to be smart, prepared, and approach things with the mindset that you can keep them wrapped around your finger. After all, papas generally have more life experience. The women who come out ahead are either shrewd—or genuinely innocent. There probably isn’t much middle ground.
That said, it doesn’t sound like you’re having much fun.
I actually enjoy it quite a bit. I have fun meeting my monthly arrangement partners—though I do carefully choose them. They have good personalities too.
In the end, women who aren’t overly aggressive and have good personalities get chosen, have positive experiences here, and that positivity carries over into the relationship. I suppose it creates a virtuous cycle.
If you’re not enjoying it, you should just quit. It’s not worth going through all that trouble for.
Maybe it just isn’t suited to you. Why not leave this and try the adult entertainment industry, where you can earn money?
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Universe Club only arranges dinner dates between men and women.
What happens after that is up to the two of you.
Everyone has different expectations, so how long you want to spend together and how much you want the allowance to be are entirely up to you. The only thing governed by the rules is the initial arrangement, so anything after the second meeting is up to you.
If you feel it’s not for you, you can simply decline. And after that, I think it’s best not to meet again.
If you feel the allowance is too low, you could always offer more, couldn’t you? That said, based on the details of this question, I don’t feel that way at all.
What others do is irrelevant. I don’t know whether it’s better than other services, but I think the good thing is that they don’t approach it with a sex-industry mindset.
It seems to me that the men at Universe don’t want to meet women who think in terms of an hourly rate.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
You may be right, and women who think the way you do may also be contributing to lowering the quality of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
If you’re constantly watching the clock, it doesn’t seem much different from sex work, and your mindset is no different from someone working in the nightlife industry.
If you enjoy yourselves—going to places you both want to visit and doing things you want to do—several hours or even half a day can pass in no time. Even at a hotel, if you’re having a fulfilling experience (well, the better the sex, the shorter it tends to be…), simply basking in the afterglow can feel nice. And if the woman falls asleep, several hours can pass before you know it…
That “extra” time—the comfort of not having to rush—is part of what makes papa-katsu fulfilling. Not just for men, but for women too…
For girls who go bar-hopping at five or six places in one night, being taken around from place to place can make five or six hours fly by—or, in some cases, even an entire day…
Whether it’s two hours, six hours, or a whole day, the allowance usually stays at around ¥10,000–¥20,000. (From your perspective, that probably feels stingy.)