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Could telling a papa that I need money for a false reason be considered fraud?

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I currently have one papa I recently started seeing. I told him that I needed the money to fund my dream, and because he wants me to achieve it, he gives me an allowance close to six figures in yen every time we have sex. He often emphasizes that this is the amount he gives me because he wants me to make my dream come true. What I haven’t told him is that I actually tried to pursue that dream in the past and failed. This time, I’m trying again. I didn’t tell him about my previous failure because I was embarrassed and worried that he might not support me if he knew. At first, I thought it would be fine since I haven’t lied about the dream itself. However, he often asks me about how things are progressing whenever he gives me an allowance, so while I can tell that he has expectations for me, I’ve started to feel guilty that this isn’t my first attempt. My question is: Since I’m receiving the allowance as compensation for sex, would this not be considered fraud? Or could it be considered fraud if the amount of the allowance is influenced by my false circumstances? I know I should probably tell my papa the truth, but I’m worried that he might accuse me of fraud. I’d appreciate hearing your opinions.
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I understand how delicate and troubling it must feel to be receiving an allowance based on your dream. As a general principle, allowances in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) are usually treated legally as gifts or compensation for services. Simply talking about your dream does not immediately make it fraud, as I understand it. For fraud to apply, there generally needs to be a clear intention to deliberately deceive someone and cause them financial loss. In your case, the dream itself is genuine, and you kept your past attempt private out of embarrassment or anxiety. It doesn’t seem that you intended to harm him. There may also be a romantic element to his decision to support your dream, along with his feelings for you and his desire to maintain the relationship. Those are choices he is making of his own accord. Since you are not falsely demanding anything from him, it is unlikely that this alone would lead to a legal issue. I can also understand why you couldn’t tell him that you had tried once before. You may have been afraid he would stop believing in your future, and no one can easily reveal their weaknesses or failures right away. However, if the guilt continues to weigh on you, there may come a time when you can slowly share that past setback as part of your story. Many men may view your current challenge positively, feeling that your past experience gives it more depth and authenticity. In any case, I don’t think you need to drive yourself to the point of wondering, “Could this be fraud?” Relationships aren’t always built solely on perfectly transparent truths. Sometimes, remaining silent out of consideration for someone is also part of being human. I hope you can feel reassured for now. If necessary, simply show your sincerity little by little, at your own pace. I hope this helps ease your heart. Please don’t blame yourself too harshly, and I hope things continue peacefully for you.
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In a world this fictional, I don’t think you need to worry about it. At the end of the day, it’s papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) involving money. On the woman’s side: “I’m doing this to pursue my dreams.” → Take the sales pitch with a grain of salt. On the man’s side: “I’m making money from this business.” → Take that sales pitch with a grain of salt. You’re both different personas under your club names, and the other person may be lying too. (Some of it may be true, of course.) In reality, you are pursuing your dreams, so it isn’t fraud. Getting a three-digit allowance is a little scary, though. But if her papa (a male supporter) sees you as being worth that much, I suppose it’s fine. Rather than disappointing him, I feel like it might be better to fully play the part and let him believe, “I’m supporting this hardworking young woman.” lol
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I’m not sure what kind of dream you have, but you should give it a shot. You shouldn’t lie, but if there are discrepancies in the timing the first or second time, just make sure to correct them so your story stays consistent. I don’t think he’s really thinking much about compensation for intimacy anyway. To begin with, your intimacy probably isn’t worth that much(笑).
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I think legal matters should be discussed with a legal professional—a lawyer. Of course, lawyers are human and can make mistakes. And when it comes to interpreting the law, it’s clear from TV programs and the like that even lawyers can disagree. It’s also quite normal for verdicts to differ depending on the judge. I think that shows how difficult these issues can be. That said, if we’re only talking about how an ordinary person might view the situation—and acknowledging that this interpretation could be wrong— If the story is, “I tried to pursue that dream in the past but failed, and this time I’m trying again,” then I don’t think it’s a lie. They’re trying to fulfill their dream as a comeback, so I don’t think that would be considered lying. And even if they failed again this time, the fact that they were trying wasn’t a lie, so it doesn’t seem like fraud. Whether it was their first attempt isn’t the important point. What matters is whether they were actually trying to pursue that dream. The question is whether that part was true or not. However, if they said this was their first attempt, then that statement did contain a lie. If the man says, “I supported you because it was your first time, and I wouldn’t have supported you if it had been your second,” things could potentially become complicated. Still, I wonder whether there are actually men who would fixate on such a minor detail. This is based on the assumption that you didn’t say anything about it in the first place—in which case, it wouldn’t be a lie. On the other hand, if you weren’t actually pursuing your dream but told him that you were doing so in order to achieve it, then I think there could be a possibility of it being considered fraud. > Isn’t it still fraud if the allowance itself was received as compensation for sex? Setting aside whether receiving compensation for sex is legally acceptable, if it was payment for sex, then his support for your dream is irrelevant, so I don’t think it would be fraud. However, I think the issue would come down to why the man was actually giving you the money. If he insists that it wasn’t payment for sex—even if it really was—then it might be treated as money given to support your dream. But I don’t really see what benefit there would be for a man to make such a claim in the first place. Usually, I think these cases begin when the man reports to the police that he has been defrauded. So as long as there’s no trouble, I don’t think it would become a fraud case. (It isn’t a crime that requires a formal complaint, but if the police have no way of finding out about it, I don’t think anything would come of it.) So rather than worrying about whether it constitutes fraud, I think the important thing is to maintain a good relationship with the man. As long as you part ways without causing a fight, this doesn’t seem like something you need to worry about.
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