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Sep 11, 2025 10:07
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① If condoms are used, how much does the allowance usually start at?
② I’m worried because I’ve been given an STI in the past. Do you take any precautions?
Also, I’m thinking of only doing oral with a condom. Are there men who would be willing to negotiate that? I’d also like to know the going rate for the allowance in that case.
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Using the term “condom blowjob” makes it sound as though you’re advertising your experience in the adult-entertainment industry.
The women who are popular at dating clubs tend to have an innocent, non-professional vibe.
So realistically, if you have experience in the adult-entertainment or nightlife industry, your popularity will drop noticeably.
I suspect there are also quite a few women who register while hiding that experience.
If you’re particular about condom blowjobs, it might be best to mention it during your club interview or include it in the profile you can edit yourself.
That way, you should receive more offers from men who understand your preferences to some extent.
As for the allowance, you should be prepared for a considerable reduction—possibly from ¥50,000 to around ¥30,000 if the man normally offers ¥50,000.
On the other hand, using a condom during sex is standard.
Men may ask to have sex without one, but refusing shouldn’t affect your allowance.
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お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> ① How much allowance should I ask for if we use a condom?
At Universe Club, many men want to enjoy something resembling a romantic relationship. So if you set different allowances for “with a condom” and “without a condom,” men may see you as a sex worker or a professional papa-katsu participant, and they may not like you as much.
(That said, I think you could make up for it through other aspects of your behavior.)
So, as a matter of principle, I think it’s better to say something like, “I absolutely can’t do it unless a condom is used, even if you offer me a million yen.” However, that could also lead to the man thinking, “I’ll just find someone who’s willing to meet my preferences,” and ending things after one or two meetings.
It’s a difficult balance, and it also depends on how appealing you are. If you’re a woman he can’t imagine replacing with someone else, there are men who will continue seeing you even if you insist on using condoms and ask for a high allowance.
So think carefully about how you want to handle it. If you receive multiple offers, you could try different approaches and see what works best.
For example, with the first man, you could say, “I’m not comfortable meeting without an allowance, but I’ll leave the amount up to you,” and see how much he offers.
Or you could start at 50,000 yen, then gradually increase your desired allowance with the second and third men to see how far you can go.
There are many different approaches, each with its own pros and cons.
One relatively safe option is to ask after dinner, when he invites you somewhere, “How much allowance were you thinking?” Then you can decide whether to accept based on his answer.
> ② I’m scared because I’ve caught an STI before. Is there anything you do to protect yourself?
I think it’s best to only enter that kind of relationship with someone you’ve met several times and come to feel you can trust.
You may think that still involves too much risk, but men also don’t want to get sick, so whether or not you feel you can trust them seems to be an important factor.
Of course, the standard advice would be to always use a condom. But since that’s a very general answer, I’ve also suggested an approach that goes a little further—one that carries a slight risk but may be reasonably effective.
> I’m thinking of requiring a condom for oral sex, but are there men who would negotiate with me about that?
You mean, are there men who would be willing to negotiate?
Looking at Mac’s previous answers, he mentioned that when he took an acquaintance to a doctor for testing, they found a woman who had some kind of bacteria in her throat. So in that sense, it may be better to take precautions.
However, I think many men would strongly dislike that, so even if they agree the first time, it may become less likely that they’ll see you again afterward.
> I’d also like to know the going rate for the allowance in that situation.
交際クラブ are basically places where men go to enjoy something resembling romance (although some men do use them in a more sex-work-like way), so you should assume that there generally isn’t a set amount for something like “how much for oral sex alone.”
The basic idea is that going to a hotel may be part of the date. In that sense, women who are enjoyable to talk to may have an advantage.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
The allowance is something the papa and the woman discuss between themselves.
You can look up the going rate online by searching:
“Tell me the going rate for papa-katsu allowances.”
ChatGPT wouldn’t tell me, but Gemini gives a detailed answer.
Also, if you register with Patoro (the site that runs this service), you can display your desired allowance on your profile.
I’m sure there are papas who would accept oral sex with a condom.
There is a general going rate, but the allowance varies depending on the woman’s appearance, age, and personality, as well as how much the papa who made the offer can afford to pay.
Not just with papa-katsu, but whenever you have sex, you should be aware that there’s a possibility of contracting an STI and be prepared. I think it’s important to make arrangements in advance.
Fuu has a hospital lined up that offers immediate testing and medication.
Apparently, taking Vibramycin within 72 hours of sexual activity can help prevent infection, right? It isn’t covered by insurance, though.
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名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
There are several different kinds of STIs.
① Those that can be transmitted through skin-to-skin contact even when using a condom: herpes simplex, genital warts, and pubic lice
(Prevention) Genital warts are visible to the naked eye, and herpes is generally contagious only when symptoms are present. It’s a good idea to check the other person’s genital area before anything happens. For example, you could get in the shower together and help wash them. However, if you notice something suspicious, it can be difficult to figure out how to decline what comes afterward.
As the name suggests, pubic lice attach to the hair roots, so shaving or removing the pubic hair should be effective.
Taking antiviral medication in advance can help prevent herpes transmission. Genital warts are caused by the same human papillomavirus that can cause cervical cancer, so the cervical cancer vaccine is effective to some extent. It’s advisable for men to get vaccinated as well.
② Those that can be transmitted to the throat through unprotected oral sex
Gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis.
Gonorrhea and chlamydia may cause symptoms that feel like having a sore throat from a cold, but they can also be completely asymptomatic. Syphilis causes rashes on the mucous membranes or skin.
Herpes simplex can also be transmitted through unprotected oral sex, but it appears around the lips.
Apparently, HIV is not transmitted through unprotected oral sex.
Syphilis can be detected with a blood test, while gonorrhea and chlamydia can be detected using a gargle-sample test.
③ Those that can be transmitted through unprotected vaginal intercourse
Gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, Mycoplasma genitalium, trichomoniasis, hepatitis C, and HIV.
In men, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and Mycoplasma genitalium may cause symptoms of urethritis, but they can also be asymptomatic. They can be detected with a urine test.
In women, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and Mycoplasma genitalium can settle in the cervix—the area deeper inside, beyond the vaginal opening—so self-collected vaginal discharge tests may sometimes produce false negatives.
As for HIV, like herpes simplex, it can apparently be prevented by taking antiviral medication in advance.
From a treatment perspective, everything except herpes simplex and HIV can be completely cured. Therefore, I believe the following would be advisable for both men and women:
① If having unprotected intercourse, take preventive medication for both of these infections while engaging in these activities.
② If engaging in unprotected oral sex but using a condom for vaginal intercourse, take preventive medication for herpes simplex.
Regarding the allowance, both unprotected intercourse and unprotected oral sex could be considered to warrant an additional risk premium. However, since the standard allowance varies so much in the first place, it’s hard to say definitively.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
> How much allowance do you usually get for using protection?
Dating clubs aren’t sex-work establishments, so there’s no set amount.
You can find the results of a survey on allowance amounts, regardless of the type of date, in this article:
https://universe-club.jp/newsroom/123220/
> I’m scared because I’ve contracted an STI in the past. Is there anything you do to protect yourself?
Personally, I get tested, don’t meet anyone I’m not comfortable with, and prefer ongoing arrangements over new ones.
I’m sure there are men who will agree to oral sex with a condom, but I don’t think there are many. If it were me, I’d probably say, “In that case, let’s not let this relationship progress any further.”