Tips Jun 30, 2025 09:06

Hello. This isn’t exactly my first time here, but I have a question.

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I’ve been active with Universe while also meeting people through dating sites. Most of my arrangements have come from dating sites. The terms have varied, from 15,000 yen with no allowance for intimacy to various other arrangements. I was used and discarded. I received 15,000 yen and put it in my wallet, but afterward I found that only 5,000 yen was there. I’ve been feeling really down. We met, and he made me drink some very strong alcohol. I tried to convince myself that the other 10,000 yen was payment for the rum—or whatever alcohol—he gave me. Things like this haven’t never happened to me before, either. This was our second time meeting, so I felt very comfortable with him. But he hasn’t replied to me on LINE, so I can’t help thinking, “Maybe I’m only worth 5,000 yen…” Am I beyond saving? I’m sorry for leaving the answer to my question so open-ended at the end. I just hoped someone might reply. Thank you.
👤 Asked by Guest 👩GenderFemale 🎂 30s 👑 Universe female member
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Fuu
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
Himawari, Thanks for sharing. Everyone sees things differently, but personally, Fuu doesn’t think working nightlife or in the adult entertainment industry is the same as having a lot of experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). People currently working in adult entertainment have sex with multiple clients a day, and I’ve heard there’s a high chance—around 50–80%—that they’re infected with some kind of STI. So personally, I avoid making offers to or dating them. But even if someone has a lot of experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) or is interested in sex, if they haven’t had intimate encounters that often, their risk of STIs should be lower. I’d still make offers and date them. I’m going on a date soon with a woman who has been with Universe Club longer than I have—a ten-year veteran. (I’ve been around for seven years.) Dating sites and matching apps are a free-for-all, and there are plenty of awful people on them. In your case, the other person was the one who behaved terribly, and you were the victim, so please don’t blame yourself. Hopefully you’ll be able to continue your activities through safe and reliable offers from the Universe group. If you live in Tokyo, the events at the Universal Club Lounge were pretty good. (Are they club events?) You should definitely go when there’s an event. There were fewer women, so all the papas were swarming around them, haha. Even women who were registered with several clubs and Patro but weren’t getting any offers—or were getting very few—were able to meet men at this event, which was a great deal for the men. There were fewer women, so everyone was exchanging contact information with papas one after another.
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Thank you all for your replies. I’m the person who posted the question. I realize I need to reflect on my own behavior. Thank you so much for your answers. I made a mistake with the renewal process at Universe, so I’m planning to start over with the registration interview process from August. I have one more question, if you don’t mind m(*_ _)m Would someone like me be considered a semi-professional? I’m simply someone who’s interested in sex. I don’t work at a soapland or as a hostess—I’m an ordinary person with a regular job who works hard and breaks a sweat. I often see male profiles saying, “Please refrain from contacting me if you work in nightlife,” so I’ve always wondered where I stand. I also wondered whether someone becomes a professional papa-katsu woman after having a lot of experience with papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). I’d really appreciate your advice. Thank you.
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アンディ
顔合わせの刺激が好きすぎてオファー続けてます。町中華をこよなく愛してます。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
My guess is that when people meet through apps, most of them probably only offer about that much allowance. It’s not so much about your value—on apps, both men and women seem to be haggling over amounts like that. Sorry, I’ve never done it myself, so I don’t really know what it’s actually like. But 15,000 yen? Seriously? lol If you want to be treated according to your worth, I think you’d be better off meeting only people from Universe. Even if you work hard on that matching app and manage to get paid, your value will only keep plummeting. Hope this helps.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
> Am I beyond saving now? What exactly do you mean by “beyond saving”? The fact that you only had 0.5 in your wallet and whether you’re a lost cause are two separate issues. Getting 0.5 for being intimate and thinking, “My worth is only 0.5,” are two different things. If you want to prevent this from happening again, it seems like all you have to do is stop doing transactional dating.
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ジョー・ルビコン
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🏅 手コキ評論家
入会して8年。いまだ彷徨中です
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I don’t consider myself arrogant enough to declare a complete stranger hopeless based on this little information. That said, since that’s apparently what you’re asking for, I’ll say it plainly: Of course you’re hopeless. You’re casually asking a question this mind-numbingly foolish—casually being the important part here← That said, you can always start over. For now, at least, stop taking your pants off so easily.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I see dating sites as pretty cutthroat places. That’s why, whenever I met someone, I made sure to bring only the bare minimum amount of cash. Flag-san said something similar, too. If you’re going to use them, I recommend acting on the assumption that they’re that kind of place. Personally, I stopped using dating sites a long time ago because there was a high chance of meeting women with a dangerous odor coming from their intimate areas.
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シアトル
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
A decent man who wants things to continue long-term wouldn’t do something like that, so all you can do is forget about the weird ones. I’m glad you weren’t injured. Be careful not to drink too much. papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) isn’t an obligation, so it’s also perfectly fine to retire, find other fulfilling activities or hobbies, and live a normal life. P.S. Himawari, I see you were able to log in. Does “semi-pro” refer to someone who lives as a full-time papa-katsu participant without any feelings involved? Even if they don’t have genuine feelings, maybe it counts as success as long as they don’t show it. “Nightlife jobs” would include cabaret clubs, snack bars, lounges, and sex workers. I guess people who write that probably prefer women with regular daytime jobs.
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