The site says “dinner only (no intimacy),” so I considered signing up, but apparently quite a few people come looking for something more. If that’s what they want, why not just go to an adult entertainment venue?
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I honestly don’t understand why people with a certain level of education and social status would want to cross that line.
Spending money in a game helps you make progress, but this is the real world. Even if money helps you move things forward, it can come with risks and end up causing stress. Why is that?
If you take away a man’s sexual desire, can you really still call him a man?
Wouldn’t that state be practically one foot in the grave?
You’re registering to create a fake relationship, so you should expect there to be a physical relationship involved.
Women are ants swarming around men’s money.
That said, even if you’re willing to put up with it to some extent, if you don’t like it, you can simply quit.
There are quite a few wealthy men out there. If you don’t like him, drop him.
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Does the person asking the question not have any sex drive?
There’s a proverb that says, “Great men love women.”
Men who are highly motivated to work and earn money often also have a strong desire to sleep with attractive women.
Since they take risks in their daily work, I imagine the risks involved in papa-katsu are probably nothing to them.
As you said, even men who are supposedly A-type—dinner only (no intimacy)—may still hope to develop a physical relationship if the opportunity arises.
If that bothers you, you should probably quit papa-katsu. It’s not for you.
But even when an ordinary man invites a woman to dinner, he’s usually hoping it will eventually lead to a physical relationship, you know? lol Were you not aware of that?
Hostess clubs and snack bars make money by keeping customers interested with the technique of seeming available without actually giving in. At local snack bars, customers are practically led to believe that they might eventually get together with the mama. lol
If you can’t use that technique, sex work and papa-katsu probably aren’t for you either… lol
Apparently, neuroscience says men have an erotic thought once every 52 seconds on average.
It’s an instinct programmed into us as animals—we want to pass on our genes.
So men with superior genes, strong ambition, and the ability to earn a lot are probably also more motivated when it comes to sex.
It’s the truth, so there’s nothing you can do about it. lol
Personally, I couldn’t accept paying an allowance for dinner only, either. There are women who will go to dinner without an allowance if that’s all it is.
And I probably wouldn’t find dinner with someone like you very interesting, so I wouldn’t feel like paying.
Please don’t register.
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If she’s a Type A, it’s basically dinner only, so I think it’s fine to tell him that and decline.
I don’t make offers to Type A women myself, but if I were meeting one, I wouldn’t consider anything beyond a meal.
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Some people feel that way, while others don’t.
There are women who say that adult services are absolutely out of the question, but papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is acceptable. Others are fine with both, while some can only do adult services. I think people’s preferences vary.
The one thing they probably have in common is that, ideally, everyone would be able to live a happy life without ever needing to experience either adult services or papa-katsu.
The same goes for things like pachinko and smoking. I think it’s only natural for some people to do them and others not to, with opinions at both extremes.
**Update**
There’s currently a Type A woman I’m considering making an offer to. As you mentioned in your question, I do have in the back of my mind that things might possibly develop further someday. But I’d also be perfectly happy if they didn’t. As long as she enjoys herself, I’m fine with keeping it dinner only (no intimacy). And if we become close enough that we both want things to develop, then I suppose that may happen naturally.
Even ordinary couples and married couples start out by having meals together, so that’s simply how I see it—I don’t have any ulterior motives. When people become close, it’s natural for the relationship to gradually deepen, and I believe that’s what dating is.
Even through a dating club, as the relationship progresses, you can build a financial relationship that people generally don’t talk about openly. I can’t say whether it could surpass the relationship with a wife, but I do think it’s possible to develop a connection more direct and involved than that between best friends, lovers, or even family.
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“That’s what you call advertising!” (by Yogi Parabha)
I suppose I should explain, at least briefly…
I haven’t checked the exact wording, but Universe Club says that even people who only want dinner dates can register. That’s what sets it apart from many other dating clubs.
At many other dating clubs, it seems people who aren’t willing to have an intimate relationship can’t register. But at Universe Club—the service that coined the term papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)—their stance is that receiving an allowance through free-choice dating, including dinner-only arrangements, is papa-katsu, and therefore their dinner arrangements don’t constitute prostitution.
That said, since it’s based on free choice, some people do want a relationship that goes beyond dinner. In fact, there are probably more people like that.
That’s between the two people involved. It’s simply a matter of becoming involved only when the man’s wishes and the woman’s wishes match.
If you don’t understand someone, you can just choose not to see them.
The rules say that the first meeting is supposed to be over dinner, so I assume the person asking the question has had dinner and received their money.
After that, you’re free to see someone whose interests and personality suit you. Rather than looking at everything only from your own perspective and saying, “I don’t understand” or “Why is that?”, I think it would be better to stop doing that.
The world consists of both yourself and the other person.
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The questioner’s point is perfectly reasonable.
That said, unlike in a game, where nothing happens unless it’s programmed in, unexpected things can happen in real life.
If a man is attractive, it’s not impossible for an A-type arrangement to develop into an adult relationship (intimate). There are also men who try to win someone over just in case.
(Apparently, they feel that not making a move would be rude.)
I don’t make offers to A-types, but there are advanced players and enthusiasts out there who try to pursue them. The more attractive a woman is, the more likely she is to attract all kinds of people.
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① Women who are type A but suggest an adult relationship
② Women who are type B but suggest an adult relationship from the very first day
③ Women who refuse contraception
I’ve encountered more than ten women fitting categories ①, ②, and ③ combined. So does that mean ①, ②, and ③ are considered acceptable, while men suggesting an adult relationship to type A women is not?
Well, I suppose that’s right.
It’s not acceptable. You’re absolutely right, questioner. I’m defeated.
④ Women who take a substantial allowance in advance and then disappear
What about this one?
This is unrelated to the question, but I’ve offered arrangements to type A women without hesitation when I found them attractive. However, there’s only one woman I’ve continued seeing for years without an adult relationship.
I’m perfectly happy with dinner only. The problem is that women who can actually make dinner-only arrangements enjoyable are practically nonexistent. I honestly can’t understand what gave them the confidence to register as type A.
Since you’re asking such an aggressive question, you must be extremely confident in yourself. I’d love to meet you.
If you’re interested, email Maezawa-san and send me a counter-offer. Don’t worry—the allowance I offer is on the generous side.
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