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Jan 20, 2023 11:49
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Since I’m new to papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I’m nervous because I’ve never had a dinner date with someone about three decades older than me.
We’ll be dining at a hotel restaurant, and I’d appreciate advice on:
- What to keep in mind regarding my outfit
- What I should talk about with someone in his late 50s
- If he brings up an adult relationship (intimate), should I clearly state the amount I want, or should I first ask the papa’s desired allowance and then decide whether to say yes or no?
Thank you in advance.
7 answers
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
With a woman in her teens and a man in his 50s, dressing overly glam can make it look like you’re openly advertising papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
As long as you look like a parent and child, or a professor and student, neither of you should feel embarrassed.
Personally, I think the woman should just wear something close to what she normally wears.
That said, if you’re going to a restaurant, it’s probably best to avoid hoodies and jeans.
As for the allowance, decide on your own minimum and wait to see what the other person offers.
If you get along well and the allowance they offer is above your minimum, it feels like things could develop from there.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
It’s great that you received your first offer.
You’re so sweet. The fact that you have that attitude already makes a really good impression—it’s heartwarming.
If you happen to meet a good papa (a male supporter), these may not be questions you need to worry about, but please use the other answers as a reference.
Personally, I think it’s best to wait for the papa to bring up the allowance. However, decide on your absolute minimum in advance. If his offer doesn’t meet that minimum, be clear about it, and only go to his place once you’ve both agreed—or decline.
If the allowance hasn’t been discussed, make sure you reach an agreement before going to his place. Be careful so you don’t regret it later.
The chances of being able to continue comfortably with a papa who never brings up the allowance are low. If he tries to take you to his place without discussing it, you may want to decide in advance that you’ll turn him down.
I hope you meet a good papa.
Other
I’m Potassium, a female member.
Congratulations on getting your first offer! I remember feeling a mix of excitement and nervousness too.
〇 Outfit
I choose clothes that highlight the best features of my style—something with a flattering, well-defined silhouette.
The main things I pay attention to are wearing clothes that fit properly and making sure my underwear lines don’t show. When the fit is off, it creates wrinkles in strange places and can make it look like I tried too hard...
〇 Conversation
I think the topics you discuss at the first meeting depend somewhat on what kind of relationship you want going forward.
First, I listen to the man and respond with nods, expressions of surprise, or laughter—even if I’m slightly exaggerating. Then, if he asks me something, I answer honestly. If he responds well, I continue the back-and-forth naturally.
As for what to talk about, I might talk about myself, or if I’ve had a similar experience to something he mentioned, I’ll say something like, “This might not be very similar, but something like this happened to me...” and share it.
Even if we don’t have any topics in common, I keep the conversation going by making connections based on the restaurant’s décor, the food, the ingredients, or whatever we’re experiencing together at the time.
〇 Adult relationship (intimate)
I wait for the other person to make an offer. I don’t negotiate.
Basically, I decide whether to continue or not.
When I received my first offer, I hadn’t set a minimum amount. Since each person offers different terms, I prioritized the experience over the amount for my first offer, so I could learn how papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) works. (He’s an ideal supporter, so we’re still seeing each other.)
After that, I gradually figured out what amount I felt comfortable with.
I’m not saying my approach is the right one, but since I didn’t know whether I would receive any more offers, I think it was helpful as a way to decide whether papa-katsu was right for me.
The most important thing is to appreciate that the other person made time for you, gave you an offer, arranged everything, and prepared so much—both time and money—for your sake. I believe you should express that gratitude through both your words and actions.
I hope you have a wonderful date.
Good luck!
That’s just my personal opinion.
Other
Enjoy your first date〜
- Wear a neat, classy dress in a subtle color and pattern. Keep your accessories understated (pearls are recommended). Carry a small bag, and wear heels or pumps that cover your toes.
- Someone in their late 50s? I’d be nervous too! Sorry I can’t offer much advice!
- For an adult relationship (intimate), it’s better to ask what allowance they have in mind.
(It’s your first time and you’re still a teenager, so it shouldn’t be too low.)
Be clear about your yes or no, or you might get pressured into something by a sketchy papa, so make sure you’re firm!
Other
Congratulations on getting your first offer!
I’m sure the man reached out because he liked your photos and profile, so I think it would be good to meet him with a sense of gratitude.
Since you’ll be dining at a hotel restaurant, how about a simple dress rather than anything too childish? Pumps would be nice, or ankle boots since it’s cold.
As for conversation, you probably don’t need to worry too much—he’ll likely ask you various questions, so just answer what you’re comfortable sharing.
Regarding the allowance for an adult relationship (intimate), I think it’s best to decide in advance the minimum amount you’re willing to accept.
That said, I didn’t think about it at all or even negotiate the first time myself. The man turned out to be a good person, and he gave me more than enough allowance, so perhaps it worked out well in the end…
Enjoy your meal and have a good time without putting too much pressure on yourself!
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Unless you already have a papa (a male supporter), wait for the man to name his price. Don’t agree to anything under 50,000 yen.
Other
It’s exciting to get your first offer!
・About what to wear
Since you’ll be at a hotel restaurant, I’d recommend a polished dress with pumps. It doesn’t have to be an actual formal dress. Something from SNIDEL or Royal Party should work well. Even something inexpensive from GRL is fine—just make sure it’s properly ironed and wear it with good posture.
・About conversation
Rather than talking about all sorts of things yourself, it’s best to mainly answer when asked and enjoy listening to what your date has to say. Don’t forget to smile and respond with little nods.
You’ll be meeting up by phone, but once you sit down, it might be nice to say something like:
“Hi, I’m ____. It’s nice to meet you.”
“Actually, you’re my first offer, so I’m a little nervous today (haha).”
It would also be good to thank him for the offer.
・About an adult relationship (intimate)
I generally wait for the other person to bring it up. It depends on your dating preferences, but speaking as a concerned older woman, I do worry about someone in their teens meeting a stranger for the first time through their first offer…
I hope you won’t be pressured or talked into anything you’re uncomfortable with.
I hope you have a wonderful date!