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I registered after turning 40 and have received offers, so I’m very thankful. Since I started using Universe, I’ve been approached more often by scouts (from some pretty sketchy magazines) and picked up on the street… Every day, I’m reminded of how important appearance is—but also that the inner qualities that come with it are what matter most! Since we only get one life, I want to stay beautiful every day in a way that suits my age. Now that it’s been half a year since I started, I have another concern… The more transactional papa supporters tend to offer higher allowances, while the papa supporters who seem to be seeking a pseudo-romantic relationship (poor choice of words, but they make me feel genuinely loved) tend to offer lower allowances. I always keep Maezawa-san’s accurate advice in mind: that continuing an arrangement is what matters most. And the amount of the allowance doesn’t change who I am. I understand how hard they must have worked to earn that money, and I’m filled with gratitude. But still!! The more detached papas offer higher allowances… while the ones who seem to like me sooo much offer lower allowances… Why is that…?
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I feel that’s just how that particular papa (male supporter) happens to be, and not a general tendency. Marika Ah, in my case, people say this to me all the time. Things like, “You don’t need an allowance, do you?” > Maybe you give off the impression that you’d be independent even without someone spending money on you, or that you wouldn’t really rely on me… I’ve never met you, so I can’t say for sure, but perhaps you have a very self-sufficient air about you. Still, I don’t think that has anything to do with whether he’s genuinely in love, or with how generous a man is with his money.
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I’m sorry, but I can’t really relate to this. In my experience, a papa who’s genuinely in love tends to give a larger allowance. I always assumed that a “genuinely in-love, wealthy papa” wouldn’t hesitate to spend money on the woman he likes. So I wondered whether the questioner’s case might just be a coincidence. But if you’ve received several offers like that, there may be a reason on your end too. For example, you might give off the impression that you seem independent enough not to need financial support, or that you wouldn’t rely on him. I’ve never met you, so I can’t say for sure, but perhaps you come across as very self-sufficient. You might be able to rely on your papa a little more, though at the same time, depending on your age, some men may find a woman with a strong sense of self more appealing than someone who seems overly dependent. It’s a complicated issue…
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I haven’t really heard much about that before, so I don’t even know whether there’s actually a connection between the two. If that is the case, though, I imagine men who offer a generous allowance understand how the world works and make sure to establish clear boundaries. Even when they continue seeing each other, they probably keep those boundaries firmly in place and simply enjoy their time together while they’re together. Still, it is strange that the two seem to be separated so clearly.
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
That’s only natural. Whether they’re men or women, people generally won’t accept more money than necessary from someone they truly care about. If they don’t really care about the other person, they can accept as much as they’re offered—women seem especially prone to that, more so than men. That’s even more pronounced in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I’d say. A therapist friend who joined a club says the same thing. So even for men, if the allowance is only 70,000 or 100,000 yen per meeting, they can’t have genuinely passionate sex. It inevitably becomes more of a transactional relationship. P.S. Deep down, I suppose I still want to keep believing that I’m “still popular” for the rest of my life… even when I’m old and frail. After seeing the news about Ikko Furuya, I thought I’d like to live that way even into my seventies. I actually have a senior friend in his mid-seventies who’s close to me, so I have someone to look up to.
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I can’t really say, since I don’t know how much allowance either the more transactional papa-katsu guys or the genuinely lovestruck, pseudo-romantic papa-katsu guys offer… That said, a papa who paid a high pay-per-meeting allowance once told me at the beginning, “I like you, but please don’t get involved in my private life.” I thought I was being careful not to cause him any trouble, but I just couldn’t bring myself to like him that much, so I ended things—sorry. That was when I realized for the first time that I couldn’t date a high-paying papa I didn’t really like. Fortunately, my favorite papa gives me a generous allowance too… I guess which is better depends on the person. Still, since we’re both registered with a dating club, I can’t help wanting an allowance, no matter how much I like him. —Just sharing what was going through Misato’s mind…
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
Rather than being a transactional papa, he’s probably seeing her because, honestly, he feels she’s a little expensive. From that man’s perspective, if I may be blunt, he’s probably thinking, “I’ll give it a try once, and if it goes well, maybe we’ll meet again—but once was probably enough…”
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🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
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“Serious-in-love” papas and pseudo-romance papas are still hung up on women. I think they just can’t accept the reality that women won’t give them the time of day unless they pay. I think papas who pay afterward are pretty similar. You want to pay afterward because paying upfront would ruin the mood, right? That’s just another variation of being seriously in love. I spend my money properly and have younger women spend time with me within the rules. I’m completely transactional about it. I have absolutely no negative feelings about giving a generous allowance. I actually had my first date with someone today, and I already gave her the allowance for our next adult date. It’s my way of saying, “Have fun with this old guy.” I honestly can’t understand people who are still clinging to women even after becoming old men.
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That’s just how the world works, haha. Things rarely go exactly the way you want them to. I think it’s best to accept that’s how it is.
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Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
The former is a scaredy-cat, while the latter is a brave soul, I guess. That said, I really don’t understand people who offer a high allowance for pseudo-romance. That’s totally the mindset of someone who’s broke, lol.
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