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Jun 12, 2022 09:38
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I’d like to ask about one of my papas (male supporters).
He wants a relationship that feels like we’re dating, so I never give off any transactional vibes, and we call and message each other every day.
I’m very attracted to him too, so being in a relationship that feels like dating isn’t difficult at all—in fact, I’m comfortable with how things are.
However, that doesn’t mean I want a relationship without an allowance, and he certainly doesn’t expect us to continue without one either.
Still, since our time together feels so much like a date, there have been times when he’s forgotten to give me my allowance—about twice so far.
But I feel awkward saying, “Could I have my allowance?” when we’re saying goodbye, because I worry it would ruin the mood.
When I message him on LINE, he says, “I forgot to give you your allowance! I’ll definitely give it to you next time,” but...
I also feel uncomfortable receiving it all together next time, so I’d really appreciate it if he could remember to give it to me each time.
He’s not the kind of person who’s trying to get away without paying me at all, either,
which makes it even harder for me to bring it up.
Have any of you ever had a papa forget to give you your allowance?
And if a man forgets, what could I say to remind him without ruining the mood?
I’d really appreciate any advice.
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In a pay-per-meeting arrangement, it can be hard for a woman to bring up the allowance, and it leaves you feeling uneasy, right…?
If you both like each other and the relationship continues, I feel there’s a possibility that the person you’re seeing could become a monthly arrangement.
I initially met my monthly papa on a pay-per-meeting basis. He told me, “I’d like this to continue for a long time,” so I casually asked, “Would it be less of a burden for you if we just met once a month and made it a monthly arrangement?” We had been meeting fairly often, and I was worried about his wallet. But apparently, there was no need to worry—he said, “If that works better for you, Misaki, let’s make it a monthly arrangement,” and that’s how it happened.
Of course, things won’t work out with every papa, so I think it’s important to consider both the relationship and your papa’s feelings. I hope you’re able to continue having a good relationship.
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If you’re having a great conversation and then suddenly realize it’s time to go—“That was fun. See you next time”—I think it’s understandable that he might occasionally forget.
But men often realize after parting that they forgot to give you your allowance. In that case, they may give you two payments together next time, and it’s probably common for them to hand it over as soon as they meet so they won’t forget again.
So if he properly gives you both payments the next time and seems like someone you can continue to trust, I think it’s fine to prioritize keeping the atmosphere comfortable rather than bringing it up right away.
I’m not sure why you feel bad about receiving two payments at once. Since he was the one who forgot, I don’t think you need to feel guilty.
But if what you really mean is that you’re worried he might not actually pay you next time, or that you needed the money this week, then you could probably remind him just before leaving by saying something like:
“Oh, today’s allowance…”
That should jog his memory.
You could then follow up with something like:
“I had some expenses coming up this week…”
If he asks what you need it for, you could say you have to pay for concert tickets, or that you bought some clothes online—something along those lines should be fine.
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I’ve only ever forgotten to give the allowance once, when I gave her a gift, and I sent it to her via LINE Pay afterward. Other than that, I don’t think I’ve ever forgotten.
As for how the woman can remind him without ruining the mood, I don’t think I have a good answer either.
Also, this is just a matter of personal preference, but I call it “pocket money” when I give it to her. My personal view is that, as adults with greater financial means than most people, whatever you choose to call it—allowance or something else—a relationship without money involved isn’t really possible anymore. So unless I completely lose track of things, I don’t think I’d simply forget to give it.
Money isn’t the only thing that makes a family happy, but I believe it plays an important role. I suppose that’s the kind of thinking behind it.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
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This is a good question that really reflects how PJ feels.
I hope all the papas reading this answer will read it carefully and take it to heart.
- Women: ① looks and youth ② intimacy ③ personality
- Men: ① financial means ② cleanliness ③ character and personality ④ appeal as a man
That’s the basic principle, after all.
You can just say casually, “I’m sorry, but I have something I need to pay for today. Would it be okay if I received my allowance?” There’s no problem with that.
On the other hand, if he forgets to give you your allowance and doesn’t realize it until after you’ve parted ways, there’s a possibility he did it deliberately.
At the end of a date, I say, “This is for next time,” and give her the allowance for our next meeting. That makes it feel less like papa-katsu and creates more of an illusion of romance, so it’s a win-win.
P.S.
Paper Airplane, these days, a larger proportion of my monthly arrangements are with women I met outside dating clubs. But every woman has told me, without exception, that I’m very smooth about the way I give them money.
Whether something feels like papa-katsu isn’t for me to decide—the woman decides that. And I can’t convey through writing the atmosphere I create before and after giving them the money.
Also, I don’t find women who say, “I don’t need that much allowance,” particularly appealing, and I wouldn’t fall for them. For a wonderful woman who devotes herself to me, the greatest sincerity I can show is money, in my case. For you, Paper Airplane, it may be something other than money. Either way, I think your stance is perfectly valid.
Women who like the way I show sincerity will naturally gravitate toward me, while women who prefer your way of showing sincerity will gravitate toward you instead.
I can pursue women even without giving them an allowance, but I simply want to give them money as a gesture of sincerity.
I’ve worked hard to earn enough to get this far, so it genuinely feels good to give money away.
I’ve mentioned this several times, but I spend time with women because I want to give them money. I’ve written that I give them money as a gesture of sincerity, but in terms of the order of things—or rather, my purpose is to give them money. That makes my purpose different from that of other papas. That said, I don’t give money to strangers or women I’m not close to.
And if you’re uncomfortable with women who are overly focused on money, wouldn’t it be better to simply pursue women normally outside dating clubs? There are opportunities to meet people everywhere.
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You could say it as you’re leaving, ask to receive it all later, request monthly payments, or say, “I’ll forget, so can I have it upfront?” You can pretty much say anything…
> Makeotoko,
That sounds incredibly papa-katsu-like. But I imagine papa-katsu women would welcome it… I’d rather find someone who says, “No, really, you don’t have to do that much,” or “I’m not a beggar, you know?”
P.S.
Makeotoko, you have a real gift for writing. I always relate to what you say at the core. Everyone has different preferences, and I think it’s great that women of all kinds can find what fulfills them.
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To make sure I don’t forget, I give it to her as soon as we meet.
If I did forget, I’d probably send it via LINE Pay rather than lumping it in with the next meeting. I don’t think there’s any way to ask for it without killing the mood.