I’m meeting a Black/B1 woman for the first time soon, and we’re planning to have tea for an hour.

For a B1-type arrangement, I think enjoying the date that day matters more. If she’s a Black woman, I want to make it even more enjoyable for her. The allowance for a dinner date is relatively small compared with an adult relationship, so there isn’t a huge difference either way. Since I’m a B1 type, I don’t even bring up the allowance. More than focusing on the money, I want us to enjoy our time together in a way that makes us both look forward to meeting again—and again after that.

Regardless of whether they’re Black or Platinum, top-tier beauties can earn ¥10,000 or more per hour at lounges. So for a first meeting arranged through Universe Club, you probably won’t go wrong if you assume you’ll need: - ¥10,000 if you want to spend one hour together - ¥20,000 if you want to spend two hours together I personally vary the amount I give at the first meeting from ¥10,000 to ¥40,000 depending on the person.

I’m Andy, a member here. I also pay ¥10,000 for a one-hour first meeting, regardless of the woman’s class. I don’t think you necessarily need to add more, but if you can afford it, she’d probably appreciate it. Female members are concerned about what kind of relationship they’ll have going forward and how much allowance they can expect, so I think it’s more important to explain that carefully during the hour. If you go out for dinner afterward, of course, give her a separate payment. If you offer an unusually high amount from the start, she might think you’re demanding and difficult to deal with. That said, most women are probably happy to receive more. I hope you develop a good relationship. Best of luck.

For first meetings, I also keep it to coffee or tea for no more than an hour, with 10,000 yen for transportation. During the first meeting, we discuss the allowance for dinner-only dates. If we both feel like continuing the conversation, he pays the dinner-only allowance in addition, and we move on to a dinner-only date.

You may wonder, “After having decades of life experience, do you really not understand something this basic without asking?” But everyone is a beginner at first, after all. Asking so you don’t get it wrong may actually be a good thing. > Is it customary to give only the minimum, or should you add more? First, I’d like you to think again about what your objective is. In most cases, I assume it’s to become closer to the woman you’re meeting. If so, you need to think about what would make her happy. Is the place you take her for dinner nice? Is the conversation enjoyable? Are you considerate toward her? (That includes being considerate toward the people around her as well.) Those are the basic things to consider, and there are various other factors too. One of them may be, “How much allowance would I receive if I dated this man?” Another might be whether he can show her an amazing world beyond what she receives as allowance. With that in mind, unless you’re extremely confident in yourself—or you’re the kind of man who would refuse a woman because she lowered your evaluation by accepting only 10,000 yen in transportation money (like those veteran men who have made offers to dozens of women on their blacklist)—I think it’s safer to add a little extra to the transportation money. Even women who aren’t considered people to avoid occasionally report receiving 30,000 yen for dinner only (no intimacy). They were probably happy about it, and I also think it raises their expectations for the next date and reduces last-minute cancellations. Also, if another man gives her 30,000 yen for transportation while you give her only 10,000 yen, then you have to make up for that by being more attractive than he is in every other respect. Is there really any point in starting out at such a disadvantage? If you can give yourself an advantage, it’s only natural to do so. What that advantage should be depends on the person, and of course your financial situation matters too. But if you’re asking this question, I assume you’re able to add more. In that case, it’s probably safer to do so. Of course, transportation money is only a small part of the overall arrangement, but at the beginning, it’s likely to be one of the things she uses to judge you. Incidentally, women are prohibited from demanding more than the set amount for the first meeting, but men are not prohibited from paying more. So men who can afford it sometimes give more for transportation.

The first time, it was 10,000 yen. After that, I think it was probably around 100,000 yen.

The transportation allowance wasn’t increased; it simply changed from a range of ¥5,000–¥10,000 to generally being ¥10,000. Personally, even before the revision, I generally gave every woman ¥10,000 for transportation, regardless of her class.

It’s entirely up to you whether you want to add extra. Since the 1.0 transportation allowance is part of the club’s rules, it’s not appropriate for the woman to ask for more. Personally, I’ve never had things go badly simply because the transportation allowance was fixed at 1.0. If you increase the transportation allowance, she may also expect a higher allowance if the relationship develops, but that also depends on your financial situation. From the second meeting onward, it’s up to the two of you, so discuss it and decide together.