Compared with before, I feel that the overall quality of the women’s appearance, personalities, and approach to dating has declined. Could this be because papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) has become more commonplace?
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There seem to be several factors at play.
Compared with when I first started, I’ve become more selective, and as papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) has become more mainstream, more ordinary women have joined as well.
That said, my personal feeling is that I’ve also aged over the past five years, and that women’s responses have worsened because I’ve become less attractive. I think it’s probably a combination of all these factors.
If we set aside that subjective perspective, women’s beauty techniques and daily efforts have been improving year by year, and I think women are becoming more and more wonderful. So rather than complaining that “the quality is…” about women who are working so hard, men should increase the allowance year after year and make an effort to become at least somewhat deserving of women as they themselves continue to age.
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I’ve been a member for about four years, but I don’t think the quality has declined.
Four years ago, I mostly made offers to women who were Type C or D, or Type B women who leaned toward C.
Recently, though, I’ve gotten more experienced and started making more offers to Type B1 and Type A women.
There are plenty of beautiful and cute women in the B1 and A categories on the Gold plan.
So in my case, the quality of the women I’ve been seeing has definitely improved.
Also, women in those categories don’t always receive many offers, so depending on the man’s approach, it’s often possible to reach an adult relationship (intimate) more easily than you might expect.
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Honestly, I joined after I first started hearing the term papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)…
I was really worried about whether I’d even be accepted (・~・)
But even now, when I look at the promotional photo books featuring the other female members, I still feel unsure whether I’d measure up alongside them.
There may be other women like me too…
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How many years ago, specifically?
I’ve been on the site for five years, and I’m still enjoying it just as much. I’ve been able to have a great papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) life with some wonderful women.
Couldn’t the issue be with the way you’re doing papa-katsu?
On the other hand, back when the rating system was unclear, profiles were the only basis for judgment. If I chose women based solely on their appearance, I sometimes got hit with two last-minute cancellations in a row.
These days, though, if a woman has a rating of four stars or higher, I almost never get canceled on the first day.
Also, as papa-katsu has become more widespread over time, women now generally understand what kind of relationship is expected and roughly how much the allowance will be. Compared with five years ago, arrangements feel much smoother.
Five years ago, women would sometimes suggest unbelievably high amounts, list a huge number of things they wouldn’t do, or aim for dinner only (no intimacy) despite having indicated an adult relationship (intimate). Since the rating system hadn’t been properly established, I often ended up encountering people to avoid.
Now, though, if you carefully check and assess both the profile and the ratings, you can have a smooth arrangement with a high probability...
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If you’re in the Kanto area, I’d recommend Universe Lounge. If I lived in Kanto, I’d probably mainly use Universe Lounge rather than Universe these days too.
In Kanto, women can try Universe Lounge when considering joining. If they’re popular, they no longer need to go through a club interview, schedule one, have photos taken, explain their profile, or wait to receive offers. In other words, popular women have no need to join Universe.
Because there are so few new female members joining Universe in Kanto, I get the impression that more women who can’t be found at the lounge are joining the club instead.
That’s why I think most of the women who would once have been considered Black-tier or popular have moved to the lounge. In that sense, you could say that combining Universe and the lounge means things are essentially the same as they were before.
Since there’s no Universe Lounge in Kansai, I don’t think things there have changed much.
If anything, compared with how bad things briefly became during the pandemic, I’d say they’ve improved significantly and returned to normal.
In the past, there was a huge gap between Kanto and regional areas such as Kansai. But now, with the lounge available, I think the situation has changed so much that areas like Kansai may even have overtaken Kanto.
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As Kazu-san says,
I find it rather uncomfortable to hear women who register with the club—each carrying their own circumstances and, in their own way, having made a serious decision—referred to simply as “quality.” But setting that aside:
Even if it were obvious to everyone that this “quality” had declined, what would be gained by searching for the “cause”?
Would identifying the cause really make the quality of the female members shoot up?
I agree with what Rubicon-san pointed out. All you can do is look among the female members currently available for someone who genuinely moves you and gets you excited.
If you’re still dissatisfied, why not try somewhere more upscale, such as The Salon?
Whether you pass their screening is up to you, though.
Good luck!
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I think women probably feel that there are more men around who are neither good payers nor even modestly wealthy, but instead just pathetic and broke.
I also think it’s completely different from when I was a monthly mistress 20 years ago.
I agree that this is probably because papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) has become so commonplace.
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I basically agree.
That said, the same thing was being discussed when I joined a few years ago. I have a feeling the refrain, “There used to be more beautiful women who seemed more open to getting intimate!” will continue forever. Since we can’t go back to the past, let’s get excited about the women we like among the current members.
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Thank you for your question. I’ll share my thoughts as well.
I think people naturally become more discerning over time. When you see a lot of good things, they gradually start to feel ordinary, and you may find that only something even better feels truly good.
According to President Kida, men have apparently been saying that the quality of the women has declined ever since a few years after Universe Club was founded, back when attracting female members was still difficult. And this has continued repeatedly over the years.
If that were really true, the quality would have been declining for ten years, so there should be no men left who wanted to meet the women currently registered. Yet even now, newly joined men seem happy to make offers.
Thinking about it that way, perhaps it’s the men’s sense of judgment that has become distorted.
Of course, the demographics of the women may change with the times, but that’s a matter of trends, and I don’t think it’s the same as saying their quality has declined.
So I think this may simply be a case of the questioner’s own standards having changed.
“Don’t you decide whether someone else’s life is worth living.”
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I’ve only been involved in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) for the past three years, but I’m still enjoying a good relationship with a woman I met this year, so I haven’t felt that way.
If you refer to people as “quality,” perhaps the problem lies with you, the person asking the question.
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Indeed, over the past while, there seem to be fewer good C-type women, and even among the “black” members, fewer have really stood out.
This club in particular has been expanding and accepting women who are dinner only (no intimacy), so perhaps the broader pool has led to more women with a lighter, more casual attitude.
On the other hand, I suspect the decline in high-level women is because, now that the impact of COVID has faded, women who can earn a decent income—flight attendants in particular—no longer feel the need to push themselves as much. Also, perhaps as the male membership has become more mainstream, the terms have declined, causing those women to move to other clubs.
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