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Aug 2, 2023 02:20
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Among the men I’ve met through an agency, most have asked to have sex without a condom and to finish inside, even though they only offered an allowance of 30,000 or 40,000 yen.
I know it’s not much, but every little bit adds up, so I accept. I could simply refuse, but even saving a few tens of thousands of yen after being asked to have sex without a condom makes a big difference.
The repeat rate goes down if I insist on using a condom. It also drops the shorter the encounter is. Longer encounters lead to more repeat bookings, but they’re exhausting.
For men who have experienced long encounters with minimal allowance and sex without a condom, do they still meet other women for shorter encounters with condoms, even if they have to pay a higher allowance?
I feel that I only started getting steady repeat bookings after accepting rougher play, long hours, and a low allowance. Conversely, I think repeat bookings are less likely when the allowance is high but the encounter is short and involves a condom.
But when I look at the questions on this site, I see men negotiating the allowance even when they ask for sex without a condom.
Negotiating the allowance or asking for more is taboo, right? Even when a man asks to have sex without a condom, are we not supposed to negotiate the allowance?
I accept these terms to increase my repeat rate. Even a few tens of thousands of yen becomes a substantial amount if you have ten men, so I accept men who don’t have much financial leeway.
I feel this is an extremely harsh world where you won’t get repeat bookings unless you agree to the kind of play the papa wants, for an allowance he considers acceptable.
In reality, I feel there are very few men who will book you again if you insist on using a condom. Is that really the case?
5 answers
Other
Aren’t you confusing “repeat customer” with something from the sex industry when you registered?
People don’t really say “repeat customer” in papa-katsu.
Also, with you asking about unprotected sex, you seem like you’d catch an STI in no time. You probably already have one. Are you okay? Do you get tested properly?
Having unprotected sex for an allowance of just ¥30,000–¥40,000 as a Platinum member is seriously messed up—and you’re in your twenties, too…
“Unbelievable” is honestly the only word that comes to mind.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
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Scary. You’d probably catch an STI right away.
If you’re offering that amount for unprotected sex, you could just solicit clients as a streetwalker around Toyoko or post on Twitter looking for people at a net café and make money by seeing one after another. There’s no need to wait around here for offers.
Personally, I’d be the kind of woman who would turn him down and end things as soon as I found out—or even as soon as I sensed something was off.
Other
Are you really a Platinum member?
Is she extremely unattractive or something, or does she weigh around 70 kg?
Either way, the papas you meet probably don’t overlap with the papas most women meet, so your experience can’t really be generalized.
Good luck.
Other
When women like you accept such low allowances, it causes problems because other women get pressured to do the same. So there really are women who agree to it.
Everyone in an ongoing arrangement uses protection. The men may not know it, but we’re seeing multiple partners, so we have to reduce the risks as much as possible.
That man meets other women for short sessions with protection and a high allowance. You need to use your head—not just one other part of your body—when pursuing these arrangements. Otherwise, you’re causing trouble not only for yourself but for others too.
The two biggest problems are that more men will start demanding the same from other women, and that sexually transmitted infections will increase.
Marika
Other
I think your perspective is extremely skewed. Perhaps the way you write your profile, along with the impression created by your comments and photos, is strongly attracting a very particular type of person.
Rather than discussing the world as seen through that distorted window, I think you should fix the distortion first.
Taro