A pay-per-meeting papa invited me on a five-day, three-night trip to Las Vegas. We usually only meet at hotels.
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Since the trip is also for business, his company will cover all the travel, hotel, and dining expenses, so it won’t cost us anything.
As people often mention here, I’ve seen that allowances aren’t paid on trips. I appreciate him covering all my travel expenses, but would it be okay to ask him directly about the allowance? I imagine I’ll also need money for shopping and souvenirs in Las Vegas.
I’ll be taking time off work and spending three nights there, so I’d like to receive at least 100,000 yen. How should I bring it up so that papas will respond well?
Whenever I hear things like this, I always wonder: why do these older guys, who already have no luck with women, insist on imposing terms that favor themselves and make themselves even less appealing?
- The papa (a male supporter) should never be the one to invite her on a trip.
- If you do go on a trip, pay the adult-relationship allowance without expecting an adult relationship, since the time commitment is way too long.
Those two rules are absolute. At the very least, let’s enjoy the trip for what it is. Why do they always want to stick it in? Even though they’re lousy in bed, with a potbelly and a tiny, hairy dick. (That’s me speaking for the PJ—not literally her crap.)
If you want to invite her, and you want an adult relationship, just offer twice the usual allowance. It’s that simple.
If you don’t like women who are all about money, go to a dating site. If you want to be popular, make sure she has an amazing time on the date—and then give her an allowance higher than the going rate.
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You might end up being expected to do it six times a day, morning and night. I’d say 24.
If it were me, I’d only do it twice—or maybe couldn’t manage more than that.
Zero isn’t an option, so you should lay out your terms upfront.
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So going to Las Vegas for free isn’t enough for you?
By the way, if your usual allowance is 40,000 yen pay-per-meeting, I don’t think you should expect too much.
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If you feel that he’ll make the trip enjoyable for you—and that it’ll be worth it, allowance included—then go.
But the fact that you’re asking this probably means he hasn’t really made you happy so far.
In other words, he’s stingy and not good at spending money.
So the right thing to do is find an excuse and turn him down.
Since he’ll be saving the cost of your trip, you don’t even feel like he’ll make it enjoyable enough to compensate for that, do you? At least, that seems to be the case right now...
Also, women generally don’t bring up allowance in situations like this. If anything, they’ll offer money back because they had such a good time. If a woman did bring it up, I think I’d immediately lose interest. I’d probably end things.
Because if she says something like that, it means she’s been dissatisfied with things up to now... I’d probably deeply regret my own immaturity.
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If you’re comfortable with 100, you could be a little assertive and say:
“As for the allowance, 200,000 yen would be too much since it’s five days × 40,000 yen per pay-per-meeting. Since it’s really four nights—including the time on the plane—160,000 yen should be fine.”
Or, to keep things neutral, you could simply ask:
“How much would the allowance be?”
With 100,000 yen, I’m not sure how that amount was calculated, so you might settle on around 120,000 yen—three nights × 40,000 yen.
If there’s no allowance, it may be better to skip the trip so you don’t end up feeling resentful.
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I don’t initiate invitations in the first place, and when I go on a trip, I’m given the allowance for an adult relationship (intimate), so there’s really no particular way I’d need to be told about it. I think you could simply explain it in the way Kazu suggested.
If the trip itself has no value to you, though, I don’t think you need to force yourself to go.
Since the travel expenses are probably higher than the usual 120,000 yen—40,000 yen per meeting for three meetings—I imagine the person asking this question must be thrilled. They may even be thinking they’ll have an adult relationship (intimate) more often than usual.
Take care and have a safe trip.
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