People say the most common allowance range on this Q&A site is 50,000 yen, but when I ask girls directly, I often hear that 80,000–100,000 yen is the most common range. Is that really true? Has the average allowance gone up?

If you simply ask the woman, I imagine she’ll name a higher amount because she wants a generous allowance. Someone who’s getting flooded with offers will probably be pretty demanding about it. If you’re taking the approach of asking her directly, I think offering whatever amount she names would lead to a good arrangement.

Among the people answering questions here, most take the position that: “There’s no standard rate for an allowance.” I don’t think anyone would claim that a certain amount is the going rate. The reason is that it’s perfectly normal for different women to receive different allowances, and for the same man to give different allowances depending on the woman. After all, no two people are exactly alike, so there’s no such thing as an allowance amount that is guaranteed to be acceptable. With that understanding, people are simply sharing what they personally offer. As for the idea that giving everyone the same allowance is fair, that’s entirely up to the two people involved. For example, imagine a company where everyone earns the same salary regardless of age, ability, or position—whether they’re 22 or 40, or whether they hold a managerial role. If the employees aren’t dissatisfied, no one can say the company is doing something wrong. It’s the same principle. Of course, most people would say that isn’t how ordinary companies work. The point is, if both parties are satisfied, then it’s fine. (In reality, anyone who isn’t satisfied will simply leave.) > I often hear that, according to the girls themselves, ¥80,000–¥100,000 is the most common range. Is that true? What exactly are you planning to do with that information? If the other person wants ¥80,000–¥100,000 and you still want to date her, then you should offer that amount. If you don’t want to pay that much, you should give up on dating her and look for someone who’s willing to accept a lower allowance. If your plan is to negotiate by saying, “That’s not true—make it cheaper,” then you’re not suited for a dating club. You’d be better off going somewhere like the adult entertainment industry, where the prices are fixed from the start. When the price is predetermined, you don’t have to wonder whether that amount is really the standard.

Depending on the man, women may vary the allowance by as much as tenfold—from 0 to 50, for example. On the other hand, there are also people who don’t give any allowance because being with them helps relieve stress and makes them feel refreshed. Sometimes, not receiving an allowance can still be worthwhile if it helps you blow off steam and feel healed.

You’ve simply been drawn into negotiating over the allowance. Just as some men adjust the allowance depending on the woman they’re seeing, women also change their preferred allowance depending on the man. If you say you’ve received 80,000–100,000 yen before, he might offer around that amount. If he won’t, just treat it as a sign that things don’t need to progress with this man.

I think I’m one of the few people here, along with Kamihikōki and Aya, who actually knows the true mainstream rates, so I’ll give you an accurate answer. Only popular black-tier women are consistently offered 8–10. And no, allowance rates haven’t gone up. That’s the straightforward answer to your question. Popular black-tier women: 7–10 Average black-tier women: 6–8 Popular platinum-tier women: 5–7 Average platinum-tier women: 5–6 Popular gold-tier women: 4–7 Average gold-tier women: 3–5 I realize it sounds rude to label women as “popular” or “average,” but it’s just for the sake of explanation, so please forgive me. I think the figures above are probably the mainstream rates. Since I have those rates in mind, I generally give about 1.5 times those amounts. I don’t want to simply match supply and demand. I want to give women an allowance that’s clearly higher than what they’re asking for. That way, spending time with me probably won’t feel like a chore to them. Of course, I pay more attention than anyone to things like body-hair removal, dieting, and overall cleanliness, including body odor and bad breath. And my preferences are completely standard. I always use protection, naturally, and I’m not rough. That said, I’m not saying that papas who don’t offer high allowances are all bad. I think a papa like Date◎Yume is the real Prince Charming. You absolutely can’t expect someone to avoid cheating entirely and limit themselves to just one dating partner, right? It’s unheard of—I’ve never even heard of anyone doing it. His dating partner must be happy. No wonder he doesn’t get married, haha. I’m seeing women in the double digits simultaneously, and I’m also meeting two new women over the next two weeks... I’m sick. I’m a scumbag.

I’m Taro, a male member. It’s a good idea to ask every woman you make an offer to. If they all give you the same answer, then I suppose that’s the going rate in your circle. It also depends on what kind of women you’re making offers to and how they perceive you. Generalizations aren’t very meaningful here.

It depends on the girl. I think amounts like 30,000–50,000 yen, 40,000–60,000 yen, or 80,000–100,000 yen are all possible. But if someone says that amounts over 100,000 yen are the norm, they may be exaggerating a bit.

I don’t know where people are saying “5,” and 8–10 is that girl’s typical range—it’s not necessarily representative of what’s common overall. Marika