When do you discuss an adult relationship (intimate) with a Type B supporter? Is it during the second date, or do you negotiate the terms via LINE or another messaging app exchanged on the first date before meeting for the second time?

During the first date, I ask directly, “If we’re going to have an adult relationship, I’m thinking 50,000 yen. Would it be okay if I invited you to a hotel the next time we meet?” I’m not really into playing games… Sometimes they ask to meet for dinner one more time. I’m okay with a second dinner, but if it doesn’t look like things will progress by the third meeting, I say goodbye. Personally, I don’t recommend bringing it up over LINE after the first date. The moment I mention it in a message, I sometimes get left on unread.

I’m Taro, a male member. I agree with Flag Maker. I think every man has his own approach. Basically, I wait for the woman to make the first move. Even if she’s registered as Type B, she joined because she wants to find someone suitable, so if she thinks things might work out, she’ll often take the initiative. If she brings up topics like, “Have you met anyone so far?” or “What were those meetings like?” I take that as a good sign. Answer honestly, share what you’re hoping for as the conversation flows, and then give her an out by saying something like, “But everyone has different ideas, so what matters most is finding an arrangement that makes you feel comfortable and satisfied.” That way, you can draw out what she really wants. The more honest the conversation becomes, the better your chances are. If she doesn’t bring up anything along those lines, I bring it up myself. If the conversation doesn’t progress to anything specific, I give up for the day. If I like her, I’ll say something face-to-face like, “I had a great time today. I’d like to see you again,” and try to set up the next meeting. Then, at the next meeting, I’ll gently say something like, “Since this is a dating club, I feel there’s probably an expectation that things may eventually develop into that kind of relationship. How should I think about that?” Some women have even said, “I’d like to talk about that.” On the other hand, if she brushes it off, then it becomes a test of my patience. By the way, women who drag things out usually aren’t worth the trouble. They have absurd pride or completely unrealistic expectations about their allowance... In my experience, I prefer someone who can become intimate by the second meeting. She may be intimate with other men too, of course, but I feel relationships last longer with the type who narrows things down from there.

If you don’t state the allowance during the first dinner date, you’ll end up struggling like the person who asked this question. Early in the first dinner date, I explain the terms along the lines of: - Dinner: 2 - Adult relationship: 12 By telling her the allowance early on, I give her time to think it over while we eat. Then, toward the end of dinner, I’ll say something like: “I’d like to invite you somewhere private next time. Would that be all right?” Since I’ve already told her the allowance, she should have had enough time to decide whether she’s comfortable with an adult relationship with me. In fact, with this approach, I’ve never once been turned down for an adult date the second time. Since dating through an escort club is based on an allowance, I believe it’s good manners to tell her the amount as soon as possible. What is a woman thinking when she’s sitting across from a papa (a male supporter)? “How much is this gentleman going to give me?” That’s pretty much it. If you don’t tell her the allowance upfront, the amount will stay in the back of her mind, and she probably won’t be able to enjoy the meal. Of course, there are exceptions—women who prioritize chemistry over the allowance, as well as escorting experts like Paper Airplane. But those cases are quite rare, so even if it feels embarrassing, papas should tell women the allowance upfront. That way, you won’t have to worry about when to suggest an adult relationship.

Above all, make the date enjoyable and let the mood build naturally between you. If it’s your second meeting, things may naturally lead to a hotel. If she’s a Type B, I think it’s better to go with the flow while the mood is good, without negotiating.

You should do what feels right for you, but if she’s a Type B, I think it’s best to show that you’re not overeager and confidently set up the next date before wrapping up the first one. That will help her feel at ease. Once she sees you as someone she can rely on, you’re halfway there. Beyond that, everyone’s different, so toward the end of your second or third dinner, you can simply ask, “How about taking things further after this?” Women who say they want to have dinner together four or five times first may be pretending to be that type, so please be careful.

I think it varies from man to man. My approach is to go into the second date without negotiating an adult relationship, then ask, “So, what do you think about going somewhere after this?” once we’ve finished eating. Basically, I just repeat the flow of a first date with a Type C woman. Type B is a hassle because you have to sit through one pointless meal first.